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Realistically... How fucked is the US?
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this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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To everyone in here saying that this is the end of democracy and this is the end times, what is stopping you from buying a gun and training with other liberals/leftists? Or are you just going to keel over and die?
I'm just going take my family and leave the country. I know that's not an option for everyone, but it is for us, so we're choosing that option.
Just curious, where are you going? My wife doesn't want to move further from her family or we would be in New Zealand already.
We're headed to Europe. Aiming for early next year.
Best of luck to you.
If they can afford a gun they likely have one, but rather than forming sects and training it seems like the moral thing to do, causing the least amount of harm to anybody, is wait for the enemy to attack first, if they do attack.
Joining a small militant group or ecoterrorism sect not only brings personal risks but also runs the risk of harming innocents, and being manipulated by other interested parties who would like to see destruction on American shores.
When you say wait for the enemy to attack, how will you defend your community in that eventuality if you haven't trained to do so?
My "community" is the enemy who might attack me. Our dumb fuck neighbors voted a fascist in, and they're not any more or less trained than I am. Probably less actually.
Your community in this case doesn't mean your neighborhood. Your community means the people who you identify with and/or care about. If you truly believe that your neighbors are on the cusp of becoming death squads who are ready to gun down all the [insert your people] in town, it might be a good idea to have your friends know that the plan is to meet up at someone's place that is more defensible. Or to get to the least mobile person. Or to get in a car with a particular destination in mind. Whatever your plan is, if the enemy is armed, it might be a good idea to also be armed.
My people are them. We're our own enemy. Idk how you could possibly fail to see how life is in the USA, to instead think it is like isolated minority sects or a bunch of fantasy guilds or some wack shit like that.
You cannot tell the ones deserving to die from the ignorant buffoons, or even allies. There is no effective training to fight "the other ones". There is no preemptive strike in good conscience. There is no guarantee of any violence on American shores unless we create it ourselves. More and more and more people will go hungry and cold in the streets for decades and it might still never devolve to the point of "death squads".
So speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far.
If you don't believe that there will be death squads (I'm not trying to convince you there will be), you are not the target of my question. Many people around Lemmy today are saying things like "you've just killed all trans people" or "I'm going to be hunted for sport now," very much believing that they are part of an "isolated minority sect or fantasy guild or some wack shit like that." These people do believe that there will be death squads.
The gun store closes before I get home from work. That's why I'm going tomorrow.
PM if you need recommendations
Good stuff! Join the SRA or John Brown Gun Club if in your area if you can.
I already have guns, several of them.
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I'm not a killer.
Aren't bullets expensive though ;. ;
Depends on what you consider expensive. For general purpose training, 9mm rounds (pistol) are easily found at about 25c each and 5.56 (rifle) are found at about 40c each.
You first
It's exactly what I did the last time orange man was in office, so yes, me first. Now you. Let's hit the range together.