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[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don't necessarily disagree, I caucused for Bernie, but I understand why they were trying to poach those falling off the republican party. When the country has swung so far to the right we don't get a left and right party anymore, we get the slide into fascism and maintain the status quo parties. At least until we can get ranked choice voting. Defeating Fascism was supposed to be a step back towards the left, but some leftists couldn't handle not getting everything they wanted right away, so instead we get to slide into fascism.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

How much did that courting the right help the DNC? Zilch.

Case in point. In so many red states, the popular vote went to trump, but the proposals to enshrined abortion in law passed.

You're making the same mistake the Ds did - there are far more people who want an anti-imperialist, for-the-people, medicare-for-all party. Instead their stuck with a fascist party and a party so shitty it's trying to tail the fascist party.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Except you would never get republicans falling off, or rather those numbers are extremely small. So now you get a situation where a large part of your voterbase goes "ewwww" when you tall about "the Wall". And you lose votes from progressives. Remember - Trump got the same amount of votes he did in 2016. Dems lost like 6 milion of them.

You don't "step back towards the left" by promising right wing policies. Especially comming off of a 4 year period of a democrat being the president. You don't talk about your opponent "having good ideas".

A correct move to the left would involve a "Biden is Biden, that old grandpa, he does stuff that I, the hip new gal in town will change!". It would involve an immediate hard stance on Gaza. It would involve a shitload of other leftwing policies. Instead you got the "status quo" as you put it which obviously sucks and people don't like it. You can promise anything you want during the lead up to the election. Don't promise republican shit though because why would people vote for a "republican with no sugar".

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