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Summary

Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.

The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.

The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.

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[-] Ekybio@lemmy.world 57 points 5 days ago

Understandable.

But sweaering of ALL men is neither healthy nor realistic and the 4B movement is not really helping the issue. Plua the movement is extremely transphobic and essentialist. Its just TERFs doing a thing again...

A more practical solution: Dont date MAGA and leave them if need be. Take the children from them as well. They deserve scorn for voting in a dictator, just because they cant get laid. And they deserve to be reminded on how parhetic they are for all of it every single das until they change.

[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago

Agreed. I also can understand the feelings behind this, but it seems to ignore that quite a number of women voted for Trump.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Bingo. My wife won’t vote for a woman president because she, not me, thinks that they’re too emotional. I know a decent amount of women in the workplace that feel the same way. I voted for Kamala because Trump is a paranoid narcissist that is a thief, liar, and can’t be trusted and she was a darn sight better to keep the boat moving predictably forward.

[-] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 58 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[-] root_beer@midwest.social 31 points 5 days ago

Women are too emotional to be president? Shit man, maga and their current figurehead are fueled by extremely volatile emotion, no matter how much they crow about facts vs feelings. Rage is an emotion, and it’s what’s driven the movement for years before it even had a name. Citing emotionality as a reason not to elect a woman is just an excuse—a very poor one, at that—and everyone knows it.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Hey, you’re preaching to the choir. Lol.

[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

That’s rich. How could one ever think in this election that Kamala was the emotional one. She made one joke about his crowd size and he went completely off the rails.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Got me. I think Trump is incredibly unstable.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

There's nothing inherently unhealthy about being asexual.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago

4B isn't about asexuality, it's about abstinence. Not the same thing.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

From a physiological standpoint? Seems virtually the same to me. The other guy said it was unhealthy. Is there anything unhealthy about abstinence?

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The difference is that one is identity and the other is a choice.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Yes, no one is arguing that. The context was there's no difference physiologically speaking. That was the premise.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

I think the distinction is important to some people.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I have enough respect for those people to know they are smart enough to understand the distinction.

[-] AwakenedAce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They're not necessarily the same, there's two major differences between them physiologicaly:

  1. Asexual people date others unless they are also aromantic (well aromantic people also can date but it's less common)
  2. Some asexual people can and do have sex
[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Asexuality doesn't have the desire for sex.

This is abstinence for those that would like to have sex but don't feel safe.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago
[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Physiologically it means that abstinence produces stress.

So yes, there are physiological differences, even if they arent measurable on the short term but instead of the long term.

[-] zante@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

This is not just being asexual. This incel behaviour.

[-] Seltzer@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

It's called celibacy, and it's voluntary in this context.

[-] zante@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago

Abstains from sex is celibacy. That’s 1B.

There are 4Bs

[-] SlyLycan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

The Bs are celibacy, no marriage, no children, no dating. None of that is incel behavior.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Incel = involuntary celibacy

These women are volunteering to be celibate.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Wow you don't understand what incels are at all do you?

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

The problem is that some men will literally tell a woman anything they want to hear until they're in bed. They will lie their ass off and avoid political discussion until after the proposal, then they'll suggest maybe she could cook a little more

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