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[-] lankybiker@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago

It's an article about environmental impact

"The impacts of vegans were a quarter of those of high meat eaters for greenhouse gas emissions, and land use, just 27% of the impacts for water pollution, 46% for water use and 34% for biodiversity. "

But let's be honest, you probably dont care, no one seems to care. People who do care are unusual and caring and taking action is unusual and might even earn you derision.

Personally I'm still trying to figure out whether there's any point in trying to change anyone's mind. I have a feeling it's a hopeless waste of energy, which is terrible. If the people do do care lose all will to try to encourage others to see what seems obvious then nothing will get better, it will probably get worse.

[-] czech@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

I don't think you can change many minds. It would be more effective to make factory farming illegal so that meat prices increase dramatically. People will eat less meat when they can't afford not to.

[-] lankybiker@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Again, factory farming seems so, totally, horrific it's obvious that it should be consigned to history.

But feeling that way is something that only a tiny minority of people seem to share. Most people just don't care.

People love meat and are willing to totally ignore the suffering behind it. Never mind environmental impacts. .

[-] Gawanoh@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

Animal products were and should be again luxury products.

[-] lexaflexa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

That would be nice, but in a democracy, no one is going to vote to inconvenience to themselves. We have to find motivation by other means than being forced, or we will create a society where nothing good happens without being forced to.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

in a democracy, no one is going to vote to inconvenience to themselves.

Some people will, because they recognize that something is more important than their own convenience. But there are, regrettably, a lot who won't.

[-] Vegoon@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Look at the election in the Netherlands, the government had declared plans to reduce the nitrogen poisoning by the animal industry, the animalfarmers made a campaign and the people voted for a conservative right "farmers party"

We need to show support or those who are against change will win.

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