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[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 63 points 2 weeks ago
[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bsky federates. I follow several people from my Mastodon profile.

Edit: I should add a caveat here. Federation doesn't work as smoothly as Threads yet. You have to use a bridge service: https://fed.brid.gy/

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 weeks ago

For now. They're still in their growth phase. If they ever become dominant and they need to make money, they'll turn into a walled garden like every other. Everyone seems to forget that Twitter, Reddit and Facebook were also all about openness at the start

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely, I don't trust them at all. There's a reason I'm on Mastodon and not either of the corporate platforms. It is nice to at least be able to follow people there though, and interact with them.

[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

The key is how healthy atproto is outside of bluesky by then

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, well that's good anyway. Is it true that they only have like one major server? Because I've heard that, but I haven't looked much into them, so I'm not sure if it's still the case or not. To my understanding, they are meant to be a federated network, but really only have the one server.

[-] natecox@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah this is still true as far as I know. Honestly this is probably what allowed BS to gain a foothold; I like mastodon too but asking new users to pick a server was always going to be a source of adoption friction.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

AFAIK that's still the case, yes. I don't have a Bluesky (or Threads) account so I can't confirm.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

The bridge is necessary because BlueSky and Mastodon cannot federate, and they never will be able to. ActivityPub and ATProto are different protocols.

[-] glowinfly@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not only federates but can also be partially self-hosted and is also open-source - by the way, I don't mean it's perfect but a lot better to reach people from there than Twitter, but be wary of this), anyone knowledgeable of US politics will know the names mentioned and how shady it looks. I still think Mastodon isn't ready for this kins of exodus. People who waited this long to leave either wants convenience or is waiting for some of the people they follow go elsewhere, or both. Mastodon has too many mobile apps options, BlueSky official app is so much closer to how Twitter looks like and people are used to and don't need to choosee instance as it already comes pre-selected by default (although people can change). Then comes the issue of scability if there was an instance to be the "default" for these people who just want quick and convenient alternative, will it be able to handle this much people at once? I have no idea but I doubt it. Most of us who go find alternative in the Fediverse is aware privacy-focused alternatives usually more than often comes at the price of convenience, not really the mindset those people are in, hopefully some of them get into it by learning what decentralization is from BlueSky?

[-] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Reddit was the same, you know. It didn’t matter

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

Has an aggressively unpleasant user base and nowhere near the blocking functionality that Bluesky has, which is essentially mandatory now for minorities on the internet. Not to mention an onboarding process that can confuse the tech literate, much less the average person.

This comment is not an invitation to talk about how actually it’s very simple and intuitive if you follow a 20 step process that relies on detailed knowledge of how federation works.

[-] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

You dont need to explain email so federation does not seem to be the issue here IMO. The problem is money which FLOSS projects usually don't have. The successful ones have perhaps enough so that the devs can put food on their table, but not much else. Most of the apps are after Dayjob hobby projects. It's hard to compete with those who have teams of paid staff.

[-] USSMojave@startrek.website 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's easy to understand Mastodon, or any federated service, using a metaphor for a country or large place, where you can say "I want to move to X country" but then you have to actually pick a place IN that country to live, like a specific city or rural district. Once you decide on your instance, it's really not that hard

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 weeks ago

Those people will either learn one day or they will end up in the same vicious cycle over and over again for the rest of their lives until they do learn the lesson or die. The only reason the blue sky process is better is because, at least currently, they only have the one server. If it ever actually federates, like it's supposed to, then that point is completely moot. Because then they won't know how to sign up for blue sky either.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no, not the same thing I’ve been doing since the mid 90s! I might die if I migrate sites again! Or something.

Making a social network only usable by around 5% of the population and then complaining when only 5% of the population shows up is a pretty indicative attitude of why so many FOSS projects struggle to get widespread adoption. You don’t get to choose how tech literate the population is. You either make it more useable or you accept a limited audience.

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

Clown take. “People should just get smart!”

95% of all American adults cannot use search functions in email.

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