[-] Chemo@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Did you give Strange New Worlds a shot? In my opinion in its core it holds the old values of Star Trek.

[-] Chemo@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Whereas previously, it seemed to be treated as more of a case of it being the actions of a lot of bad eggs within the Federation.

That`s a good observation.

[-] Chemo@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

Thank you. I really liked the second episode so far and I think I can live with a federation that finds back to its former values.

[-] Chemo@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

The Star Wars flipping back and forth from Republic to Empire over the millennia makes sense.

Star Wars society is a constant shithole. I don't think the slaves of Tatooine care about if the senate or the emperor rules.

A fall of a galactic empire makes sense.

It does, but this is not the plot of a single show but a constant theme in most of the new series.

[-] Chemo@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So, you jumped on the conclusion that you don’t like any recent Star Trek series

Not at all. I love Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds.

yet you insist on criticizing every decision

I am not criticizing "a decision", I am criticizing a trend.

so fuck it didn’t read it at all

Which would be very wise, because otherwise I would waste even more of my time.

Do you truly want the answers you claim to seek?

Yes, because that would help me to decide if I am just wasting my time, continuing with the show. But don't bother. Other, kinder people have already been much more helpful then you.

[-] Chemo@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

Right! Totally forgot about Lower Decks. Awesome!

[-] Chemo@feddit.org -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Rehabilitation implying the sentence is not a life long sentence.

I was talking about the sentence for Nus Braka. Maybe I'm just a crazy communist but in my depiction of a better world society knows better ways to deal with criminals then to just lock them up.

It wasn’t a “Drumhead” type trial

I don't know what your perspective on fair trials is, but a single judge rushing into the chambers, asking the felon 2 questions and immediately declaring the sentence. No attorneys, no hearing. That's some North Korean shit.

[-] Chemo@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thank you. That gives me hope I can enjoy the show. But I still don't get the necessity to turn the federation into a dystopian shithole even for a short time. Also, this seems to me just like the Picard spin all over again. Some bad event suddenly turns the Federation into a malicious society and now they have to amend...

[-] Chemo@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks. I gave it a shot.

SpoilerSo it's all in the past and everything is better now.
But I still don't get why this dystopian spins are even necessary.

[-] Chemo@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Fair point. That's why Star Trek shows usually don't play at the federation but on far away planets.

[-] Chemo@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

I get you. Utopia does't seem very probable. But it was nice to have at least one single franchise that commits to it.

but not everyone on earth owns a fucking vineyard

That's the very reason I don't like the Picard show as well. No one is supposed to own a vineyardfor themselves in Star Trek Earth. DS9 did a good depiction of life on earth with Benjamin Siskos dad who just loves cooking and provides a restaurant for everyone.

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I just don't get it. What is the freaking problem of those directors, trying to rewrite federation into some kind of dystopian tech fascism?

I was annoyed by the first Star Trek movie by JJ Abrams, with those police cops. I was alienated by those anti-android resentments in Picard. I stopped watching Discovery after the first episode, because the main protagonist was sent to some kind of labor prison for disobedience, where prisoners regularly die. I didn't think it could get any worse but just watching the first 10 minutes of Starfleet Academy makes me want to bury the whole franchise [edit: and stopped watching]. Some drumhead court-martial, lifelong prison sentence, violently separating a mother from her child and some goons beating up a prisoner. How in the hell is this the same federation of TNG, Voyager and DS9?

Star Trek is supposed to be the ONE fiction with a positive, utopian view on mankind and the future. I totally get the attraction of dystopian settings but for that I can read some Warhammer 40k novels. This really makes me furious.

Fortunately there is still Strange New Worlds.

Please spoiler me, when this bullshit in Starfleet Academy gets turned around in some twist, because otherwise I will just ignore the show.

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