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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 3 months ago

Some of these comments are wild.

The OS should not at all stop me from doing what I want to do. Ever. Not even if that means I can fuck it up.

They can warn me when I attempt to do things that could fuck shit up. They can make it a bit harder to navigate to certain things so I'm less likely to fuck shit up. But it's my god damn hardware. I should be able to run and configure the software on it as I see fit.

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

But we subsidised the cost of your phone so we could make sweet sweet recurring revenue off your usage habits and targeted advertising!

You wouldn't want to take that away from us would you? Won't SOMEBODY think of the shareholders?!

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I'm getting really sick of products being only available subsidized by a level of invasiveness that should be illegal.

The government should need an individualized warrant to purchase my data. And honestly Google should need one to collect it

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

We really really need an open OS for mobile phones that is actually competitive with commercial offerings.

[-] troed@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago

I don't think the OS is the problem - it's that some of the critical service/apps people rely on (government ID, banking) only exist for the closed systems. Third party OS's try to "solve" it through various container approaches running the official apps, but since they see that as a security problem it's not something you can fully trust to be working at all times.

[-] qqq@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think they're both pretty big problems. An open OS and hardware that supports it seems to be a huge hurdle, but at least there is a clear vision of how to solve it. The problem you bring up though... It seems like we've almost gone too far at this point and it's gonna be really hard to put the cat back in the bag. It seems like something we need to solve with legislation potentially?

[-] brisk@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago

The people writing the legislation are the same people who don't see a problem with a government-furnished app using Play Integrity

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[-] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

If I ever go insane and write a manifesto this will be on it.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago
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[-] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

This is fine, but the other 582 pages contain some real doozies.

[-] krunklom@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

They claim this is about security but when your system is compromised there is fuck all they will do to help you.

Fucking hypocritical, control-hungry pricks.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It's about the security of their brand. No sane company wants people walking around, talking about shit their phone is because it keeps getting infected.

[-] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I had to 'sideload' the secret of mana port because play store would refuse to validate the license offline after purchase. If I can't play offline a single player game that i bought, than what should i do.

I also have an apk of wayward souls, because it was removed from the store and i like that game. Also a premium game. So yes. Running software as i see fit.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

My feed is curated by the Illuminati

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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

No difference from checking IDs at the airport? So Google wants a government body to handle their platform on their behalf and to ensure a common playing field where at the airport I can choose whatever vendor I’d like?

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

You know, it's true - I have never heard a Linux user refer to something as sideloading, even though Linux is the platform that originated official software repositories.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The key thing to understand is that there's a big fucking difference between a "repository" and an "app store." One is designed for the convenience of users; the other is designed to exploit them.

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[-] EldenLord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I finally want to switch to android and boom: Custom ROMs and "sideloading" gets swept off the platter. Well ok I guess I‘ll just wait for a good linux mobile OS

[-] Lemmyrick@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

SteamOS. Outside of Ubuntu and other corp distros, if steam made a mobile-specific os or invested in arch enough to make a mobile friendly UI I would be interested

[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

So annoyed that just bought a Pixel 8a for Graphene. I thought I'd get to use it til 2030 when it stops getting security patches and now I might not even get a full year out of it.

[-] tranquil_cassowary@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

GrapheneOS still intends to support all the supported devices until EOL. The sideloading change doesn't affect them. It won’t apply to GrapheneOS. It only applies to certified OSes and GrapheneOS is not certified because it doesn’t license Google Mobile Services. As per the rip out of the device trees for Pixels, that just makes Pixels like other phones. GrapheneOS has been able to expand it's automation to build that device support themselves. For new devices, making the support will take longer than it did in the past though, but they will still support those Pixels, as long as they meet the hardware requirements and still allow third-party OS support with all security features intact. Besides that GrapheneOS is actively talking with a major Android OEM right now in order to help them reach the security requirements for a subset of their future devices. They are very optimistic about that.

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[-] Opisek@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

nudging the EU with a stick Come on, do something

[-] Vikthor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Plot twist: EU enacts Chat Control.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

They are, they are banning bootloader unlocking, a requirement to get out of corporate hell.

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