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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Hello I'm not a person who is affected by this community moderator but I'm posting on behalf of people who are, since they don't seem to know of this community yet. I attempted to reach some via DM but I'm not sure they'll respond. So I'm making this post since I feel this needs to be addressed.

Recently I was made aware of a community that appeared randomly on Lemmy.world. It seems to be a troll community given the type of content, but the reason I'm posting about it here specifically is that this mod seems to be banning anyone who points this out or goes against his narrative. Furthermore he is only using the autoremove on ban function, not removing any content the users have posted, which I believe is deliberate in attempt to prevent the content from showing up under the modlog and revealing the hypocrisy.


Some samples of comments:

Comment from: @glimse@lemmy.world

Everything else you posted has been pretty cringe but what he fuck is up with this one, dude lol

comment from: @rain_worl@lemmy.world

free software is SLOWING DOWN tech advancement??????? WHAT???????

comment from: @rain_worl@lemmy.world

i genuinely do not understand your point

comment from: @the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world

First off, nice new community. I look forward to days of quality posts such as this./s

Second, how many Linux distros have this level of data collection, and what is their estimated market share?

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All of these were retrieved from the API, even though they aren't included in the modlogs, I could've included more but it's kind of a time consuming process to look for them and retrieve them. Viewing removed comments is easier on Lemmy than it is on Reddit but it still isn't easy.

What do you guys think, does this seem like power-tripping? Also does this person's content seem like blatant troll content?

CC: @glimse@lemmy.world @rain_worl@lemmy.world @the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world

People who's comments I mentioned, I CCed them so they know I did this on their behalf

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Linuxsucks community? It got to be satirical!

Oh... It's not...

It could be a place to discuss interesting points, for after all, there are legitimate points to be made. But it's not...

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

The ironic part is that by creating this community the mod is actually working against his own movement because he's resorted to trolling and power-tripping, instead of a community to discuss interesting points. Meaning less people will ultimately be willing to take him seriously.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is an example of a community I don't subscribe to, because I'm not the target demographic.

I think a Linux sucks community should exist, it can exist, and if the moderator wants to remove anything about Linux not sucking that's fine too. The way this moderator is doing it, they should just turn on mod only posting.

I looked at the community sidebar, and one of the community rules is no promoting Linux, no defending Linux, so at least it's consistent

Lemmy needs a diverse set of voices.

Counterexample: if I go into fuck cars and talk about vehicles in any positive fashion, I'm going to get dog piled and probably banned

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've had run-ins with Linuxsucks' owner and basically only poster over on linuxmemes. They're a troll, a contrarian, uninterested in any kind of honest or good-faith discussion, and an overall dickhead. The community is a one-man circlejerk.

You're right about needing counterpoints, but Linuxsucks ain't it.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think he basically only made it because he somehow thought that if he had his own community his memes wouldn't get as heavily downvoted, as they do on !linuxmemes@lemmy.world though they're pretty wrong about that. Pretty much all but one of their posts there on linuxsucks are getting downvoted heavily.

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I've suggested a rule in the past, but we don't have this rule now.

Community Manipulation

Communities should not be overly moderated in order to enforce a specific narrative. Respectful disagreement should be allowed in a smaller proportion to the established narrative.

i.e. A user should be able to (respectfully, infrequently) post/comment about a study showing marijuana is a gateway drug to !marijuana without moderation tools being used to censor that content.

There are times people wouldn't like it, but it'd fully solve this !linuxsucks issue.

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[-] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I've actually been fairly fine in fuck cars, both Reddit and Lemmy editions. I actually like cars, well, some of them anyway.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

The difference between !fuckcars@lemmy.world and linuxsucks is that the first one is largely a fact and logic based community about the problems with car dependency in urban areas, and car-dependent infrastructure.

linuxsucks is a single troll who's talking shit about linux for seemingly no real reason, some of his posts are insanely illogical, and make very little sense. So yeah I definitely think these communities are anything like each other.

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[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

I've done that in fuckcars and not gotten banned. A lot of the users can be rabid but the mods aren't quite vegan tier as far as I can tell.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think that there are key differences between

  • A community criticising something, backed up by reason and evidence. Even if it's something popular, doubly true if there's a circlejerk around that thing. This can and should exist.
  • A community created to circlejerk against something, through insane troll "logic" and silencing any dissidence. This is fertile grounds for idiocy and misinformation, thus harmful for the society [I can go further on that if desired] and the Fediverse [ditto], and should not exist.

Sometimes the boundary between both is not clear - but this community, unless it's a troll comm, falls cleanly into the second case. Specially given how opaque the moderator is trying to be (check how none of the removals appear in the modlog).

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's very clearly a troll community since really the only person posting there is the mod, most of which are very transparently troll content, like this one hating on the idea of OpenSource and Free licenses for some really weird reason, that hasn't actually been clarified. Someone said to me when I showed that to them that they could be an alt-right corporate shill, but I don't have enough information to come to that conclusion. Only thing I can clearly tell is that they are very obviously a troll.

And yeah I definitely agree that these types of communities are very harmful, and definitely something we should nip in the bud before they get out of hand and start spreading disinformation, as well as fostering toxic or even dangerous sentiment.

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[-] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed !unixsocks@lemmy.blahaj.zone is a far superior community in so many ways, best part of all though, they're not tolerant of slur usage. Which is more than I can say about the one I mentioned in the main post unfortunately.

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I unfortunately am starting to lose faith in Lemmy's desire to reduce toxicity. They just now finally banned Linkerbaan, but it took 11 months of extreme trolling in support of Trump for it to happen. Days before the election, they finally took action. The user is probably laughing his ass off, having already reached 99.9% of the users they were hoping to.

Their cherry on top is they got away with accusing people of supporting/loving genocide hundreds of times unscathed. Most of the time where I witnessed that behavior, the person they attacked hadn't even expressed any form of support for Israel.

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

If you hang out in politics communities they are gonna be toxic. I don't think that's a fair characterisation of lemmy in general though tbh. There are plenty of wholesome communities.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 4 points 1 week ago

That account. I doubt they are gone.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

They have two other accounts, one on .ml and one on discuss.online. Wouldn't surprise me if there were sockpuppets as well, it always seemed like the same few users would always show up to agree with whatever they posted.

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[-] the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Lol I just figured I'd respond to a random post about how Linux users are paranoid conspiracy theorists. Got banned on sight. I shoulda seen this coming...

[-] rain_worl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Recently blocked that community and person, once it became unavoidably clear it's not a gag. Just a trolling asshole extraordinaire, picking a fight with like half of Lemmy, and worst of all, doing a shite job of it.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm glad this community is a thing. There is !fediverselore@lemmy.ca for lore, drama and debacles, which is interesting to see when there is conflict between multiple somewhat reasonable sides, but when it's just mods behaving silly it doesn't feel as right a place.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well my only post was telling them to ban me, so mission accomplished I guess

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this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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