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I'm a bit concerned about how much my husband has been watching his videos, but he's a hard man to argue with. I want to understand what it is Joe Rogan is saying, but I don't want to give the man my viewership. How/where do I get the info I can use to debate my husband?

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[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

OP doesn't know what his arguments are yet, just that his videos are full of fallacies, and a lot of terrorists/traitors love his content

[-] realcaseyrollins@narwhal.city 2 points 1 year ago

Focusing on one or the other should suffice for an argument though. Although you can't do both because the latter is an ad hominem fallacy

[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It would be, if I was using it as a premise that the show was bad. I was not making that argument.

[-] realcaseyrollins@narwhal.city 2 points 1 year ago

It still is. You can commit to the ad hominem (guilt by association) fallacy by saying that the arguments are bad because extremists believe them or point out logical fallacies in the arguments and say that they must be false because they're logically invalid.

[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I didn't conclude that the arguments are bad. Insisting it is still ad hominem is fallacious.

[-] realcaseyrollins@narwhal.city 2 points 1 year ago
[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

What about accusing someone of guilt by association when that person hasn't assumed someone is guilty? Do you not understand that that is the very thing you're doing?

[-] realcaseyrollins@narwhal.city 1 points 1 year ago

You're the one who said this, no?

https://lemmy.world/comment/3783147

Just checking.

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