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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by pivot_root@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

This also includes ceasing development and destroying their copies of the code.

The GitHub repo page for Yuzu now returns a 404, as well. In addition, the repo for the Citra 3DS emulator was also taken down.

As of at least 23:30 UTC, Yuzu's website and Citra's website have been replaced with a statement about their discontinuation.


Other sources found by @Daughter3546@lemmy.world:


There is also an active Reddit thread about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1b6gtb5/

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 188 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm sorry but how is using the actual keys from a legally purchased system circumventing anything? It's like saying using the actual key to your own front door counts as breaking and entering.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 104 points 8 months ago

DRM is evil. Laws prohibiting circumventing DRM are also evil.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 84 points 8 months ago

Nintendo's angle is more along the lines of:

  • We gave our friend Switchy the keys to a lockbox.
  • You tricked Switchy into giving you our keys.
  • We didn't authorize you to use those keys.
  • Using our keys without our permission is circumventing our DRM.
  • Yuzu is a tool that enables you to use our keys.
  • It's illegal to distribute tools to circumvent DRM.

It's a massive reach, but it's a plausible argument—or even a good one if the judge is a technologically illiterate luddite. Beyond that, Nintendo is the kind of litigant that will drag out a lawsuit until the other party is forced to settle.

[-] viking@infosec.pub 71 points 8 months ago

A court in Germany has recently decided that reading the code of a software you legally purchased and finding plain text passwords there is illegal hacking.

The person was hired to do a security audit (by a third party) and disclosed the finding to the software developer, not even to his own employer.

The developer decided to sue him instead of fixing the problem.

At this point I have lost all trust in the technological capacities of judges out there.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

There's a different kind of judge now than the technologically illiterate?

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[-] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 50 points 8 months ago

Because the dmca says so.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

It shouldn't be illegal, but it is because the law about it was written by the industry 25 years ago because our lawmakers think the internet and indoor plumbing work the same way.

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[-] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 122 points 8 months ago

Wow. Fuck Nintendo. I own 2 switches and ToTK. Of course I emulate it, so I don't have to play at 20fps. And I can mod the game. Not buying another nintendo product again. I'm done. I'll just pirate it since it seems I don't own it anyways. Can't play it where I want, how I want, so why play by the rules at all.

[-] simple@lemm.ee 111 points 8 months ago

The fuck? Why? Emulators are entirely legal and they could've won

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 109 points 8 months ago

Nintendo went after them for using (not distributing) prod.keys to decrypt game titles and system firmware under 17 U.S.C. 1201 (2), which sidesteps having to challenge the legality of emulation directly. I guess Yuzu doesn't have the funds to fight them in court on that.

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[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago

Because Nintendo is a vexatious litigant that weaponizes the legal system in an attempt to bankrupt their opponents.

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[-] stoly@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Nobody has the money to beat Nintendo.

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[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 111 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I own a launch era Switch. When I run Yuzu, I use the keys that I pulled off of it. When I play games in Yuzu, they are games I have purchased and dumped using the Switch Nintendo sold me. The controller I use is a Nintendo Pro controller. I play on my computer because it is MUCH better at playing Switch games than my overclocked Switch is. Just fuck off with this Nintendo, stop making your games worse.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Your games should stutter just the way Nintendo intends them to or you're not getting the full experience!

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[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 106 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Let this be a lesson: if you try to forcibly pry open the gates of DRM hell and let software be free, you best let it be truly free and only money off it from the donations of your supporters. Don't be like yuzu and monetize the living hell out of your emulator. Don't stuff it with telemetry, don't hide releases behind a patreon paywall.

That all being said, fuck Nintendo.

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[-] markr@lemmy.world 99 points 8 months ago

I started out in the computer industry working for a company that reverse engineered and built IBM compatible terminal systems, This was more than 40 years ago, when that was its own large and profitable sector of the computer hardware market. It was absolutely legal to build 'plug compatible' reverse engineered third party systems. DRM is almost entirely horseshit that has helped turn the entire tech industry into silo'd enshittified monopolies.

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[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 8 months ago
[-] spez_@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago

They're wrong and it is ethical to steal their IP

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 71 points 8 months ago

Fuck DRM though, all my homies hate DRM.

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[-] 0Xero0@lemmy.world 65 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Here is the latest stable build of Yuzu that I've got from 24 hours ago for anyone who wasn't able to download it in time.

[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

Anyone downloading executable code from a random person on the internet needs to take a course in digital safety.

I assume you're not being malicious, OXero0, but none of us can possibly know that.

For anyone thinking of downloading it, wait until the popular, vetted forks show up. If you don't already have a working version, you don't need it today.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 64 points 8 months ago

Can't blame them but at the same time, yeah kind of sad they folded as easily as a Nintendo DS.

I will say Nintendo can count on me, a older game with disposable income and kids, not buying a switch 2 with they way they've been acting with all of their lawsuit and anti-consumer practices.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 months ago

Same here: When I want to buy a game for portable play, I'll just use my Steam Deck and buy from Valve or GOG instead, maybe even emulate some Nintendo games on it out of spite.

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[-] dirtbiker509@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago

Logging in to cancel my switch online right now. I was using YUZU to play games I bought from them, in some cases even more than once. F Nintendo. I won't be buying a Switch 2.

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[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 64 points 8 months ago

Money is a weapon in western society. You can't win just because you're right

[-] alphapuggle@programming.dev 56 points 8 months ago

I can load a pirated copy onto a modded console, does that mean that Nintendo is liable for their software being used for piracy?

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

Nintendo got them alone in a dark room and told them that if they don't settle, admit and pay something they might be able to pay off in their lifetimes (Nintendo doesn't care about the money, 2.4 million is nothing to them), Nintendo would tie them up in legal battles for years, still making them broke and probably blocking them from doing something new.

Or something.

Fucking corporate shills. Why can't we just all have fun gaming. Piracy increases sales.

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[-] tabular@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I was thinking of buying a few Nintendo games to use on an emulator but that's a lot of effort and there are other good games out there. Glad I didn't so I wouldn't feel shame for giving them more money. Nintendo Direct my balls into your mouth.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

Yup, I don't think I'm buying any Nintendo products anytime soon

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[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

Nintendo can count on its games being pirated even more now. Good for me that I never touched a nintendo in my life.

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[-] Daughter3546@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago

Fuck Nintendo and their mafia-like bully tactics.

[-] Monomate@lemm.ee 39 points 8 months ago

For those looking for the latest Yuzu and Citra releases: Yuzu Win/Linux Early Access, Yuzu Android, Citra Win/Mac/Linux/Android.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 8 months ago

Ryujinx lives on, thankfully, for the moment.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

They also have a Patreon. Since Nintendo got away with killing Yuzu, Ryujinx is probably next.

[-] The_wild_card@lemmy.ml 28 points 8 months ago
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[-] ed_cock@feddit.de 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Man... in a better world Nintendo wouldn't have a case because liberating encryption keys is the basis for interoperability, which is good for, you know, competition. Competition is good. Or so I've heard.

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Nintendo may be right here, but I'm still not buying their new console or any new games of theirs.

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