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[-] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 115 points 1 week ago

As somebody who often ends up using Reddit like Stackoverflow and in some cases needing the Internet Archive (IA) to find the original post after it’s been deleted or garbled, I think this is a wakeup call for those go to Reddit both to get technical help and to post it. More than ever, Reddit is becoming an unreliable place to find answers for old obscure issues and if they are going to lockout places like the IA then I think it’s time people stopped contributing their solutions to Reddit.

[-] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago

Searching anywhere in general is getting shittier and shittier by day. Web searches are riddled with hallucinated AI generated garbage pages. Finding the right answer for difficult problems is getting worse and worse. We are sliding rapidly into Idiocracy.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

yup. continuing to feed them traffic after their repeated attacks on the userbase is just sad. stop using them. yeah it sucks the info is gone, but acting like they'll wake up and change is absurd.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

When I joined Lemmy I decided it was unwise to trust anything on Reddit less than a year old. Now it's anything under two years old.

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[-] RustyShackleford@literature.cafe 67 points 1 week ago
[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 week ago

lol i think that might be the worst/best thing I have seen in a long time

[-] rhythmisaprancer@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

Unrelated but is your username a play on benzene?

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yes, in a way. this benzene ring

there was a band called Hum and in one of my favorite songs of theirs called The Scientists, the song talks about a couple who are scientists and creating and experimenting with drugs.

she tells him to keep this benzene ring around your finger, and think of me when everything you ever wanted is about to end

i fucking love that song but that moment in the song is just peak layers upon layers of music and poetry and love and adventure.

https://youtu.be/7IPDsUGBv64

[-] rhythmisaprancer@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

there was a band called Hum

Wow, what a memory trip! I listened to that song, I don't think I have heard it before, but it is great! I'm pretty sure I heard a different song from them at the time, but they probably live in my mind from looking at BMG and CD warehouse catalogs at the time. Other artists have popped up over the years from there.

I'm glad I asked, and thanks for answering! Somehow that took me back to my Candlebox days.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

their big hit was called Stars

https://youtu.be/gMEB4HNNZ2I

oh yeah, I listened to Candelbox. They didn't put on a good live show sadly

[-] rhythmisaprancer@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Ya that was the one , i listened to it, also. The very beginning sounded very familiar but I'm not sure about the rest. But maybe it's been 30 years and, well 🤷‍♂️ I never saw Candlebox live, guess I didn't miss out. I really liked Alice in Chains but only got to see Cantrell tour while "waiting"

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

I never got to see AiC either 😩

[-] rhythmisaprancer@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Ya 🫤 Jerry is still touring (I think). He was good live then, but the last time I saw him was like a month or two after Layne's death. It's been awhile. He's older, but so am I, and presumably you 🙂 His solo stuff was great. We ended up getting a lot of AiC stiff at that '02 show. Very solid performance. Not really related, but I've heard the Sublime stuff is good, but I wasn't ever that into them, just have a friend who has stuck with it.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

I saw the Long Beach Dub Allstars and they played a couple Sublime songs. Fucking heroin.... fucking opioids. Ruined so many lives.

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[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

Cuck boy getting pegged by post top op Garfield is definitely not something I had jotted down in my day-at-a-glance.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I would have at least expected him to ask Spez to put some lasagna on his bumhole as lube.

[-] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[-] tal@lemmy.today 63 points 1 week ago

Given that the Internet Archive is the de facto standard way to cite material as seen on a given date


they're a trustworthy party that will probably persist for a long time


that's going to make it harder to cite content on Reddit.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 1 week ago

Damn, guess if you want reddit data to train your AI that you’ll need to pay Spez for access.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's important for people writing papers and such who need to cite material.

I wonder if there's some way to use the TLS certificate to get a cryptographically-signed copy of a webpage with timestamp that someone could later validate as having been downloaded on that date. I don't know if existing TLS libraries are capable of that. Like, Web browser menu option "Store cryptographically-signed webpage". Absent a later certificate compromise, I'd think that that'd at least provide people a way to credibly say "this is really what was on that webpage on August 15th, 2026". Like, you'd have to save a copy of the TLS session and then have libraries that could read and validate an already-generated session. The timestamp is already embedded in the session.

Some protocols, like OTR, are designed to specifically not allow that, but AFAIK, TLS could.

EDIT: Well, technically the timestamp is gonna be during the handshake, not tied to the HTTP request internal to the TLS session. It might be possible to game that by establishing a TLS session, holding it open without activity, and issuing a request much later. I'd think that that'd potentially be disallowed by Web servers one way or another, since otherwise you could probably do a denial-of-service attack by holding open a lot of sessions for a long time.

EDIT2: Oh, wait, no, shouldn't be an issue, because the HTTP Date response header is gonna have a timestamp tied to the response.

[-] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Don't forget, Reddit is legally allowed to train on your content, but not the other way around. It's consistent with US law, where corporate tax is half of income tax.

[-] Keyboard@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

I already gave up from Reddit long time ago. Deleted all

[-] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

When RIF died, Voyager became the new forum app for me.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 points 1 week ago

It’s another move to protect against AI scraping that isn't paying them for access.

[-] JakenVeina@midwest.social 26 points 1 week ago

The company says that AI companies have scraped data from the Wayback Machine, so it’s going to limit what the Wayback Machine can access.

Yeah, wouldn't want those AI companies to get all that data for free. Gotta make 'em pay for it.

[-] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just more vindication for my ditching that trash heap of a platform. YT is probably going to be the next platform I ditch as they're going full Reddit now.

It's a matter of time before third-party YT front-ends start getting throttled or outright blocked like third-party Reddit front-ends.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

YouTube's already throttling users in their mobile site. They have these massive channel cards in their feeds and the video titles/thumbnails disappear after a few offerings, leaving you with the ability to blindly click on a video.

[-] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 3 points 1 week ago

I've declared my YT channel to be dormant starting on the 13th due to this AI age-gating crap.

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As long as the previous collections of archives are still intact. We probably don’t need all of their new spam posts in the wayback machine anyway

[-] hamFoilHat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It is my understanding that if you block the wayback machine from indexing your site it will also delist the history as well.

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

They do archive sites against the owners wishes when they consider it an important site for public archiving, like some news sites. They are in no obligation to delete the archives and hope they don’t.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Parties have archived the data from pushshift, which cover a lot of Reddit history.

kagis

https://academictorrents.com/details/1614740ac8c94505e4ecb9d88be8bed7b6afddd4

Subreddit comments/submissions 2005-06 to 2024-12

This is the top 40,000 subreddits from reddit's history in separate files. You can use your torrent client to only download the subreddit's you're interested in.

I mean, that won't have the past half year or some low-traffic subreddits, but...

[-] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago

The ability to block crawling is separate from the ability to delist old pages. The latter usually happens after domains change owners

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Oh no, someone might not be paying them for their user generated content (!)

To be fair, it's probably best that history forgets this period of the web...

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

that history forgets this period

and thus it repeats

[-] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

I am new to Lemmy, is there a fuckreddit sub?

[-] morto@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago

In a way, the entire lemmy community is the fuckreddit sub

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Why would you want to spend more time thinking about a dead site?

[-] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

I just like to laugh at things I dislike. And I also like to see how bad it's getting. Iwas in the undelete sub and it was amazing.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Yes.

Hi welcome to Lemmy, we hate reddit here.

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

!reddit@lemmy.world

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[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Time to just ignore them and scrape it anyways

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

OK, I stopped posting on Reddit but left my account and comments in place because I considered them part of the public record. If Reddit is taking that record private, it’s time for me to start removing my content from the platform.

Does anyone know if historical Reddit content will remain in IA? If not, I’m going to have to back up years of content somewhere else.

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 2 points 1 week ago

I'm assuming IA will continue to host their historical archives of Reddit, they'll just not have any new captures after this. Unless IA has said otherwise, it'd be very strange to wipe their archive of Reddit

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[-] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Damn you Spez.

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