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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by KonalaKoala@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.world

I'm not sure which community on here this would be best fit in without the risk of it being removed by a moderator for some reason, but I started getting the following popup when trying to watch videos on YouTube as of yesterday while becoming a little bit worried my Youtube Account might get blocked permanently from watching any videos over someone's greediness.

Anyway, I'm using Vivaldi Browser which is a Chromium Based Browser and this began happening while I was using Youtube and had AdBlock Plus enabled. So, I had to completely disable it and switch to using uBlock Origin instead since I discovered they do have a weekly thread open in their subreddit. I also ended up having to disable Privacy Badger on Youtube due to it causing the popup to appear and whatever is being blocked by it is probably causing Youtube to think that it is an Adblocker.

Right now, I have the built-in setting in Vivaldi set to blocking only trackers, not ads, and I only have Ghostery and uBlock Origin enabled on Youtube and able to play videos on Youtube without the popup coming up for the time being. And on a worse case scenario, I could choose to turn on Hoxx VPN Proxy and WebRTC Leak Shield while I'm making reports of the issue to the uBlock Origin Team, since I recently added them to have the option of changing my IP to one in another country.

The only other extensions I currently have in Vivaldi are the following.

  • AdBlock Plus (completely disabled at this time)
  • DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials
  • FediAct
  • FicLab
  • Ghostery
  • Google Translate
  • Hoxx VPN Proxy
  • Lemmy Go
  • Link Redirect Trace
  • Nextdoor Pixel Helper
  • Privacy Badger (disabled on Youtube)
  • Privacy Pass
  • Save Image As PNG
  • Session Manager
  • Shareaholic
  • Tab Manager Plus
  • uBlock Origin
  • Video Downloader Unlimited
  • Video Screenshot
  • WebRTC Leak Shield

Anyway, one of the main things I have been using Youtube before is to put on a ten to twelve hour or longer video to listen to either the sound of a rainstorm or rain falling (either light or heavy), the sound of a flowing river, or the sound of waves crashing on shore for relaxation to help me think or help me to fall asleep, and I have already tried to use piped.video for that, but when I pull up any video on it, it just keeps spinning and spinning and doesn't load shit for some reason like this may be fucking it up. Apparently though, I can get the desired videos to play while in invidious, but it tends to stop after a while for some reason and I'm wondering if there is anyone who I can contact that may be able to help me find a solution. I really don't want to do something that would likely open me up to a high risk of getting hit with malware and spammy stuff, or some kind of really long malwaretisement.

Also, I'm currently somewhat worried that my Youtube Account may be at risk of being blocked or suspended over what is going on here, as I currently have a bunch of movie purchases on the account that I don't want to lose.

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[-] scytale@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago

Have you tried using Firefox with uBO and see if you're still getting the popup? I'm on FF and I haven't come across that yet. You have a ton of extensions so it might be good to start troubleshooting by trying a different browser with just an adblocker.

Also, you can ditch Ghostery, they have a history of selling user data; and go for uBO instead of Adblock Plus.

[-] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I have tried using Firefox with uBO and I wasn't getting the popup there at this time, but I prefer using Vivaldi. The reason I have all those extensions is because I prefer to keep my privacy and have helpful stuff. And since I was not aware of Ghostery having a history of selling user data, I may go ahead and disable that completely and just leave uBO as the only enabled adblocker on Youtube.

[-] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you care about privacy, you shouldn't be using Vivaldi in the first place.

Anyway, in whatever browser you decide to use, uninstall adblock plus, DDG privacy essentials and ghostery. Just install uBlock Origin, it replaces all the others.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Ghostery has been caught selling data. Use privacy badger.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

In that case, it looks like Vivaldi might be the issue. I won't tell you what to use of course, but Firefox is better if you care about privacy. Also, the fact that FF with uBO can block the popup while Vivaldi with uBO can't means it's probably a browser issue. I don't use Vivaldi so I unfortunately don't know how it works under the hood, but maybe there's some setting in there you can change. I'll let people who are more familiar with it answer instead.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Any idea why there are so many Chrome forks? One would think using Firefox engine would be more aligned with privacy and the spirit of own source.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Chromium makes style compatibility and security easy.

[-] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I didn't say anything about Vivaldi with uBO is not blocking up popup, since it is currently blocking the popup at this time.

[-] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By the way, I want to mention that I recently came across and started trying out LibreWolf on my computer which may be better than plain Firefox in terms of privacy. It is a custom version of Firefox that is focused on privacy, security and freedom, and includes uBlock Origin. LibreWolf appears to be working good when going directly to Youtube as I don't get that Anti-Adblocker popup in it at this time and I have no need to login to my Youtube Account in it. Oh, and I found that LibreWolf appears to be compatible with Firefox Addons since I have added some other addons such as the Hoxx VPN in case a problem arises that I need to use it to switch my IP over to one in another country. I have gotten the premium of the Hoxx VPN since its only $36 USD a year and gives me a much larger choice of countries.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, LibreWolf is just hardened Firefox. I didn't recommend it immediately because it might have complicated your troubleshooting further due to it being more locked down than FF. If it works for you, then good; that's definitely a step in the right direction (moving away from chrome/chromium).

[-] mr_strange@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

Fortunately for them, my adblocker isn't on YouTube. It runs on my browser!

MY browser.

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Or on MY pihole. Even on a different hardware.

[-] Alwaysfallingupyup@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Did anyone else almost stroke out trying to read the title? imdizzy

[-] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

An alternative option is to download the audio files with something like youtube dl or those youtube to mp3 sites

If you just you rain sounds or something.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How about not logging in at all, and just using the platform?

You need an account to post videos and feed the comment engine, but the most common need for an account I've seen is the 18+ verification for NSFW videos. If you need neither, just don't log in, so you don't provide additional food for the privacy invasion machinery.

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do you not just use Invidious, if not Piped?

Yewtu.be, vid.priv.au and y.com.sb are working for me.

[-] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well, I was trying to use Piped, bit it kept spinning and spinning and wasn't loading any video for some reason.

[-] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was just trying Piped.video again and now when I try to play something through there, it gives me a message stating 'Failed with error code 1002, see logs for more info'

[-] nocturne213@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Same thing happens to me when I try and use piped videos.

[-] LittleBobbyTables@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve been using Piped for a while now, and it seems that at this point in time, videos not playing is a known issue.

You could try looking at using Invidious. Personally I recommend Piped, but since it seems various Piped instances just straight up won’t play videos, I don’t blame you for using something else or just sticking to plain old YouTube for the time being.

[-] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just took a look and it appears Piped not playing videos is a known issue going on weeks now and I'm beginning to wonder if it should be declared unreliable here until someone releases a fix for it and gets it distributed to all Piped instances.

[-] theKalash@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago

Piped is great if you want to watch a little circle spin forever.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

I've been using Brave without any extensions (ad-block is built-in) and haven't seen this so far. It is a fork of chromium (not chrome) so maybe worth a try.

New Pipe is currently working on Android. That's a bit of a cat and mouse game as google tries to outsmart such apps every few weeks.

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