I don't think you trust

For me the Linux Mint developers' hostility to snaps (which in my experience tend to be the best trade-offs for my needs) is one of the many reasons I won't use or suggest Mint.

I mean, analogous to firefox example you supplied, you could just delete nosnap.pref and be on your way.

Also, snapd keeps a snapshot of your per-revision configuration from an app for a while after you remove it. You can run snap saved to see all the current snapshots. It doesn't remove your $SNAP_USER_COMMON directory for that snap (which is where the Firefox snap stores its profiles), so moving from the snapped Firefox to the version from apt is just a matter of moving the .mozilla directory out of ~/snap/firefox/common to ~/

I could have sworn I checked that, but I was a lot less familiar with these things at the time, so maybe I missed it.

I don't think snaps are a bad thing on principle, my own bad experiences with them notwithstanding. I could also live with a for-profit operating its own curated package repository as part of its service. I'd personally prefer not to use a client locked into one particular package provider, but if that's the tradeoff for that provider's security guarantee that your packages are all Canonical-certified safe, I'd accept that. If it were preinstalled with an OS, that's fine. If they make it the default Software Store, we're on par with the Microsoft Store and other App Stores and those too provide a utility and convenience, particularly for those less technically minded. The ship on "don't bundle your browser with your OS because that's monopoly grabbing" has sailed long ago anyway.

All of these are things I'm fine with, even if I personally would choose not to use them. If that was all, I'd still recommend Ubuntu as a beginner distro, because it was my intro to Linux too and I found it good at the time.

The thing that irks me is when they're being dishonest about it. You no longer wanna support a deb package in your repos? Fine, let me know, offer me a one-click migration option for installing the snap instead and moving my data over, give me the whole marketing routine of telling me how much better your new solution is, but make it my choice.

Having a transition package for a name change or breaking up a larger project into modular packages is one thing. Using it to instead run an entirely different package manager pulling from a proprietary repo?

Worse still, if you had trouble with one app so you went and found a non-snap repo, you pinned it with higher priority, reinstalled it from the new source and thought you were in the clear because that worked as expected.
But you forgot or didn't know to also put a negative priority on the snap source because pin priorities seem intuitive enough, only for unattended upgrades to look at the pins and say "That sign can't stop me, because I can't read" (pins from repos I don't know) and reinstall the snap...
I get that automatic upgrades don't pull from all repos by default for security reasons, but at least look at the priorities and realise "Ope, not gonna touch that, I'll notify the user to do it manually if they trust the update".

And that, for me, is the part that takes it from apathy to disdain; the part that goes beyond "each distro has its own preferences, no big deal"; the part that reeks of a profit-oriented company aiming for vendor lock-in.

To close the topic out: All of this is just explaining my stance; I'm not telling anyone what to do or not to do. You gave your point, I gave mine. By all means, if it works best for you, I'm not getting in your way. I just wish there was a better option.

Thanks for that correction then. I wasn't conscious of that detail.

In any case, the issue remains that, if the vendor's default repositories push for a type of package I don't want, I either have to manually find and vet third party repositories I trust or find someone else to rely on for defaults I'm fine with.

The difference between "I want a different source for a single package, so I'll manually select a different source for that one" and "I don't trust Canonical to select sources I agree with anymore" is one of scale. I'm fine with manually pinning the transitional package, uninstalling it and the snap (hopefully remembering to back up my profile before realising that it also deletes user data) adding a ppa, reinstalling it and reimporting my profiles just for firefox.

But if I feel like I have to fight my distro vendor over not using their preferred package distribution system, it's probably better to jump ship - other vendors have beautiful distros too.

(Also, "you can just use a different source" is part of the reason people prefer not to use snap, where you can't do that)

Correct me there, but wasn't the "select source" thing intended to be about different deb sources?

The issue is that what you expect to be a deb package manager ends up redirecting to snap anyway. It's not a different source, it's a different system. If I have to manually take steps to avoid using the distro vendor's default sources because they just redirect to a system I don't want to use, I might as well look for a different vendor.

And so I did

IIRC, the issue was that - unless you take steps to explicitly prevent it - Ubuntu would occasionally reinstall the snap version. I don't remember the details, been a while since I had to dance that dance, but I recall it being one of the things that put me off snap in particular, Ubuntu in general and sparked my search for a different distro.

I'm now on Nobara, a Fedora-based gaming-oriented distro maintained by GloriousEgroll (who also maintains the popular Proton-GE)

We should

...by having actual experts feed her sensiblr answers, demonstrating a good politician's critical judgement of her own limits and trust in the subject matter expertise of others for good decision making

Are you trying to argue that laws and treaties are worthless unless enough people abide by them and are willing to enforce them?

Because, yes, that is the fundamental principle of society: We need to work together to survive and thrive, so we agree on rules by which we work, and enforce them on those that break them. If you disagree with something but take no steps to oppose it, your disagreement is just as worthless as a law nobody cares to enforce.

So what point are you trying to make here? "If China enforced their claim and nobody stopped them, their claim would be effectively valid"? How is that relevant to the situation if all they're doing is protesting, but nobody else cares to back them up and they don't actually take measures to prevent the passage?

"If I put pineapple on my Pizza and nobody stops or punishes me, it's legal"? Yes. Congrats. You understood the very basics. Want a sticker?

Got into that with my MIL once.

When confronted with the idea of leaving an emergency lane in a traffic jam, she also vehemently insisted she'd never done that.

That woman shouldn't drive.

Most international experts consider the outbreak of a third world war unlikely in spite of global surges of violence

Not mundane, but the implications would be horrifying to 1923 society still recovering from "The Great War".

When sexist objectification accidentally teaches a point against sexist objectification

I've got a joke about DB, but I'm not sure when it'll reach you