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Bombshell new reporting from 404 Media found that Flock, which has its cameras in thousands of US communities, has been outsourcing its AI to gig workers located in the Philippines.

After accessing a cache of exposed data, 404 found documents related to annotating Flock footage, a process sometimes called “AI training.” Workers were tasked with jobs include categorizing vehicles by color, make, and model, transcribing license plates, and labeling various audio clips from car wrecks.

In US towns and cities, Flock cameras maintained by local businesses and municipal agencies form centralized surveillance networks for local police. They constantly scan for car license plates, as well as pedestrians, who are categorized based on their clothing, and possibly by factors like gender and race.

In a growing number of cases, local police are using Flock to help Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents surveil minority communities.

It isn’t clear where all the Flock annotation footage came from, but screenshots included in the documents for data annotators showed license plates from New York, Florida, New Jersey, Michigan, and California.

Flock joins the ranks of other fast-moving AI companies that have resorted to low-paid international labor to bring their product to market. Amazon’s cashier-free “just walk out” stores, for example, were really just gig workers watching American shoppers from India. The AI startup Engineer.ai, which purported to make developing code for apps “as easy as ordering a pizza,” was found out to be selling passing human-written code as AI generated.

The difference with those examples is that those services were voluntary — powered by the exploitation of workers in the global south, yes, but with a choice to opt out on the front-end. That isn’t the case with Flock, as you don’t have to consent to end up in the panopticon. In other words, for a growing number of Americans, a for-profit company is deciding who gets watched, and who does the watching — a system built on exploitation at either end.

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[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

AI doesn't exist, it's just a bunch of dudes in India.

[-] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

AI = Actually Indians

[-] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Looks like fraud will be on the rise as AI tech's just not worth the investment but pretending to use it still reaps in the investments.

Tesla Optimus - Exposed Teleoperator

AI's regressed to pre-Deep Blue now

Alright I'm gonna take a gamble and say that it looks like the AI bubble collapse is basically here.

[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But it's especially infuriating that this company has received so many government contracts from ICE and all over the U.S., and in some cases literally just gone into towns and put cameras up without permission. Then refused to get around to taking them down in some cases, so towns just started covering them up with trash bags.

Its like an entire business model where some creepers with a cardboard box pretend lemonade stand just decided one day to start selling pretend AI instead. And we just let them? Who fucking signed off on this?

Who is it that even helped them get their foot in the door in the first place? Who was the coked out billionaire who apparently just fucking picked their name from a list he glanced at for 5 minutes on his way to rehab? Somebody needs to find that person, and we all need to be allowed to give him a swift public kick in the ass.

[-] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago

Hold on my dude,
I never said I'm for this surveilance bullshit.

Fuck AI and Fuck ICE.

At the same time please take the time to read and interpret comments properly as you're directing your justified rage at the wrong person.

[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wait, what? I was just making a joke.

Unless you are the coked out billionaire? In that case I would like to know what you were thinking when you vouched for these people.

I was just pointing out it's definitely going to contribute to the bubble popping, but it's even worse than other AI companies bc it was mainly government contracts (which means they'll probably still be getting funded for the foreseeable future even while other companies go under).

It's insane they were ever allowed to receive a government contract for tech that didn't even exist, so I would just really like to know how that happened? Like legally how could this have happened if not for somebody in some position of power helping these people get their foot in the door.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

it looks like the AI bubble collapse is basically here.

FINALLY.

[-] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

The term "AI" has been misused and misrepresented so much that it's more of an aesthetic than a technology now.

The main thing flock is really supposed to do is capture and match pictures of license plates at different locations. It's not even complex.

So how tf did they get the green light for the first government contract if they never even had that capability?

[-] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Either they conned the government org in charge of purchasing it, or that org just didn't care enough to look deeper. They got a professional-looking demo that made it look like the tech worked, and signed the contract without a second thought.

[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The history of the organization seems very odd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flock_Safety

It began as a side project in which the three co-founders built their first video surveillance cameras by hand around Langley's dining room table. When a DeKalb County detective told Langley that his camera product had helped with solving a home break-in, Langley called the two other co-founders and told them to quit their jobs.

What?? How did a detective use it to solve a crime? Who was he? And based off of this one dude you all 3 just quit your jobs??? What??

Then we just jump ahead to 2022 and these cameras that didn't even work had raised over $380 million in venture funding?

Then by the next year they were being used to sub for actual police due to a shortage of police officers?

So they just go from the Hardy Boys help solve a mystery in Georgia in 2017 and then suddenly by 2023 Marc Andreesen (big surprise) is suddenly funnelling millions into their business.

Oh, good, this citation will probably help make clear what the fuck actually happened between 2017 and 2023: Flock Safety. "Media Kit: Our Founding Story". Flock Safety. Retrieved April 8, 2022.

[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I don't understand how a private company deploying cameras on the side of roads is even legal.

Does that mean I can build solar powered raspberry pi units with cameras that do the same thing and pepper them around the country without question?

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 1 points 3 weeks ago

🌏👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀 (currently since 2023)

I have to give the broligarchs credit for always somehow managing to leave me stunned. Every time I learn some unbelievable bullshit like this, it's like falling in hate all over again.

As we leave the stagnation of society behind in the ruins of regulations and democracy that only held us back, and the technocratic elite steer us full speed ahead through this "Renaissance" we are truly blessed to be forced to live through, the line between technology and magic continues to blur...

Or maybe it's just 700 sweatshop workers in a trenchcoat. Who's to say?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

That headline just keeps getting bleaker as it goes.

[-] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Let the unregulated "free" (for some!) market ruled by the winners decide.

The billionaires are the winners and the deciders that our wonderful free market system has given us.

/s

[-] phaedrus@piefed.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

The ouroboros vibes are strong with these companies

[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's not legal where I live, but that didn't stop me from fighting back.

I'm not down with this surveillance state we're moving into.

[-] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Surprise surprise. 🙄🫩

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