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Hello folks. I use many distro from Debian to Fedora to OpenSuse and Arch. I also use many window managers like i3, dwm and qtile. On desktop environment, I use XFCE the most. Currently, I am looking to try something new, hence KDE.

I am looking for something with a beautiful UI and works out of the box. So, something on the same spectrum as XFCE but more pretty.

I tried out the distros with preinstalled KDE: Fedora KDE, Manjaro KDE, Kubuntu.

The good: KDE is beautiful and very easy to use. I actually enjoy using my computer more.

The bad: it crashes.. a lot even when I turn off all the animations. My system is not that slow: AMD 7 Pro with 64 GB of RAM. Some examples:

  • Logging in, KDE hangs for 30 seconds. Even when I finally see the desktop, I would need to wait a further 10 seconds to finally able to interact, i.e. click and open stuff.

  • After resume suspend, system would hang and there is nothing I can do except for a forced reboot.

  • Browsing the web with only 3 tabs opened, KDE also hang.

As much as I hate GNOME, everything just works. I installed the GNOME flavors of above distros and never experience any hiccups.

If KDE works for you, do you use a preinstalled distro and which one? How about if you install KDE from scratch, like Arch?

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[-] _donnadie_@feddit.cl 1 points 1 month ago

Plasma 6 started very prone to crashes in my laptop when it released. I like how it works a lot more than Gnome, but Plasma tends to be buggier for me too.

This last month I've been having rendering issues in a lot of software, like Firefox and Okular in Fedora 41 (and now 42). I don't know where they came from as it was pretty much perfect last month.

Sometimes I think I'd prefer to return to xfce in laptop (like I tend to use in desktops) or use labwc.

[-] Glifted@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I have never gotten KDE to work well... but I'm a shitty user running on shitty hardware so grain of salt and all...

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Vanilla Arch is much easier to install than it used to be. Connect to wifi via terminal commands or connect ethernet, enter archinstall and go down the list.

I've only ever had the waking from sleep problem, but it's consistent in other DE's for me. I have a desktop so I just turn that and hibernate off.

I had a known problem with krunner not opening after first run unless you killed the process, but I got rofi and customized it to the teeth instead. Found out that I love rofi. I probably won't go back to krunner even it gets fixed now.

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Arch is much more difficult to install now than it used to be as well. I remember when Arch had an installer.

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[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Most of those issues I do not have. By waking from suspend, do you mean hibernate? A system d update broke that last year in OpenSuse and I'm assuming other distros. I sleep now and it wakes fine.

[-] nayminlwin@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I used to have hang on suspend resume problem on my Thinkpad E15. It somegot got resolved in later updates. Might be a random firmware problem, that's really hard to track down. So may be it mostly comes down to luck.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

In my experience KDE on OpenSuse and probably Fedora are rock solid. The first and nowadays probably also the second (which has moved to first tier instead of being a sub-distribution) are considered reference implementations of industry strength distros.

My thought would be that you've added something slightly broken to the mix which breaks KDE. It can happen. Linux is complicated, KDE is also complicated, what annoys one desktop can be ok with another. If you want to figure out what the problem is, you'll have to go through your various system logs to see what fails.

[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Well, before wayland I always used fluxbox (eventually with picom compositor, which previously was compton). Then now on wayland I'm using sway with fuzzel, yambar and others.

I've always felt both gnome and kde, as well as most other DEs really bloated. Gnome used to be more stable on wayland, and as of Today with better support for nvidia AFAIK, but KDE is quickly catching up.

Not sure why the hate on gnome (and I guess on GTK as well). It doesn't offer all the customization by default, but you can get it through extensions while available. But on KDE one really needs to see a pletora of dependencies each time one adds a simple module or application. Both are improving gradually to become less intense on resources being KDE more advanced on that.

But hey, both are bloated compared to non full DE compositors such as sway or labwc. BTW I use sway with tabbed mode (not actually tiling) and some tweaks, and I prefer that over stacking compositors, but if wanting one labwc is pretty cool.

On X11 there's a huge amount of window managers plus compositors plus several other applications which altogether can give a similar sense to a DE but way less intense on resources, and for sure way less bloated. To me DEs are overrated to answer your title, but perhaps that's just me, :)

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago

re the hate on gnome: extensions are unsupported and can and do break between versions, sometimes intentionasely. The gnome devs would realey really like it if you didn't use extensions and just admit they know best for you.

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[-] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, that's what its always done.

[-] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Xfce user, here to represent!

I love it and haven't had any trouble. Try it out!

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

I use arch and so I get the latest kde releases and sometimes things are buggy. But usually those are fixed next update. But yes, it is beautiful but man it's not as stable as something like gnome

[-] the_visitor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

It has many preloaded features. You will use only a few of them.

I've been using Fedora KDE for...months? Maybe a year now? And I've yet to see it hang or crash.

[-] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com -1 points 1 month ago

I don't like it, too much desk space wasted on useless crapola. I use Mate, a nice clean desktop with a simple pull-down menu leaving the majority of the space free for work.

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