Too much unnecessary Russophobia in this. It’s like blaming every US citizen for the evil things that the US government and big tech corporations like Google, Meta etc. do. Stop that generalisation.

Any labels for self-hostable? I'd rather keep my documents on my own hardware while also collaborating.

How does OnlyOffice often get left out even though it’s one of the best and most popular office suites?

I don't know where these "guides" come from, seen several of them pop up. It is like a guide to mostly paid, corporate alternatives, not necessarily open source. There are lots of open source alternatives and configurations to get away from all of google's services. Ksuite? please, no.

“But staff and ownership are Russian.”

Ok. Does that matter for open source software?

Onlyoffice should be mentioned. Has a mobile app too, though it absolutely sucks ass. It's fine for viewing, but it just crashes more often than you can save your document (spreadsheets at least)

How is there an office guide without OnlyOffice? They're a huge player.

Edit: Just saw the Russian thing. So? You've got a lot of FOSS software to abandon if ownership and devs are a concern without evidence of a code issue. Might want to reconsider posting to Lemmy, in fact.

LibreOffice has been working "fine" for my DeGoogled personal life.

Work is heavily Googled still (and not entirely up to me), but I've practiced a hard barrier between work tech and personal tech for years now. In case I can sway any colleagues: Anybody feeling like any of these alternatives would be ready for a small or larger team to jump over to that routinely collaborates on spreadsheets, documents and slides?

Switzerland is not part of the UE, therefor kSuite is not a european product.

Need to add onlyoffice.

I've been using LibreOffice and its predecessor, OpenOffice, for yeeeeeears. Maybe 20 years? I have no complaints.

Love the FUD around Onlyoffice lmao

"Every person from insert current enemy of the West is inherently evil and should be judged by their ethnicity. Everything they touch is inherently bad and should be avoided. You say it's a proven and transparent FOSS application that's one of the best suites right next to Libre office if not better for ppl switching off of M$ Office? Sorry, evil Ruzzians tainted it with their touch, means I have to downgrade it's visibility and mark it in red" seems to be the mentality behind that

least xenophobic/racist liberal

Edit: apparently ppl don't know how free and open source software works... (usually, like in this case, you don't have to pay for it!) Also the company is Latvian, AFAIK some of the staff is just Russian (newsflash, many Latvian citizens are Russian).

I'm thinking of switching to mailbox.org since I'm a slut for one stop solutions and I'm in it deep with google docs/calendar/sheets/email. Anyone here used it and have thoughts? I like the idea of custom email domain idk if ksuite does that too, but I like the look of ksuite's collaborative docs setup and large cloud storage

LibreOffice + self-hosted next cloud = ???

since I moved to Linux back in August I've been using libreoffice. the only issue I have had is the default paper size being whatever it is Europeans use (printers full of eagle paper got mad) but after changing it I had no issues.

I prioritize simple keyboard shortcuts, unfortunately LibreOffice sucks at that and the customization of shortcuts is lacking.

I'll look at the free tiers of some of the online ones to see what it's like for them. I just want a few basics, ontop of the common ones (bold, increase size, etc.)

• toggle bullets / numbers
• change styles (e.g. heading 1)
• insert hyperlink