The liberal party should pass the electoral reform they promised so more political parties can compete on who can beat conservatives the best.

Stopping the conservatives is the priority... right?

The liberal party honors their promises... right?

Bold of you to assume OP doesn't live in Turkey or Israel.

That’s why the 2-party system is so flawed. I used to be so gullible to think that if everyone keeps voting for the left party then the parties overall would sway more left in their future policies, but that is impossible in the capitalistic hellhole we live in.

I’m on record as saying even if the US had elected Harris, we’d be right back on the precipice four years after. Maybe Trump, maybe someone else, but it would still be awful.

As badly as the world needs Luigi right now, he’s not the long term solution.

We're basically a few years behind the USA right now

People said that when Trump was elected the first time.

Yeah, as someone from the shit hole to the south, I was very relieved Canada didn't go in the populist, right wing, direction it was looking like. I am hoping the failure of the trump administration instigates a push back to the general trend right that has been going on in the west. My bigger, less likely hope, is that we can reflect on what happened and actually address the popularity of fascism.

Yeah it was a close election. We absolutely did not reject Trump with any consensus. There's not as much to celebrate people think.

What people don't know is the Conservatives here have had a revolving door of leaders in search of a Trump-like candidate. The past several election cycles have been this way. The party has sold their soul to MAGA style politics a long time ago.

They just had the best showing ever in this election even though it was a loss. And this is with the best Trump wannabe candidate they've managed to field thus far. A belligerent authoritarian-like tyrant with zero shame. They are not going to stop this any more than the Republicans would to turn back from Trump. They may even keep the current guy even though he lost his own seat.

Canada will inevitably elect a conservative government. It's a defacto two party system. It will all go to hell. Especially if MAGA is still ruling America at the same time.

I'm glad we can drop the fucking bravado and acknowledge this now. We need to in order to survive.

With any luck the Conservatives will split back into two parties. It's unlikely, but the splitting of the Conservatives would be a welcome surprise.

Trumpanzee - I'm nicking that!

1. fuck tankies
2. i DO think it is fair to lament that the state of the world has anyone in a place where they must strategically vote for a fucking banker to protect you from something worse

I mean the guy is a straight laced professor of economics who wrote his thesis on the advantage of competition. He's not exactly a working class hero. However, it could have been way worse and anyone who can't see that just needs to look at the US to find out what happens when you don't vote for the lesser of two evils.

You don't have to be a tankie to see that Carney is a red tory.

you don’t have to be an authcom to see that carney is to the right of trudeau; he canceled the carbon tax, the capital gains tax hike, and is in favor of building more oil pipelines

no matter who won, canada would shift to the right. all we could do is decide by how much.

(and either way, all 3 of them - trudeau, carney and poilievre - are neolibs who support the genocide in palestine)

Stephen Harper when he was leader of the Conservative Party offered Mark Carney a position as Finance Minister.

So Conservatives sure thought he was far enough to the right to be a Conservative.

And if the conservative had won they all would have suddenly become optimists "the bright side is that this will weaken the western empire and accelerated the revolution of the working class!"

Anything to the left of the Liberals is "tankies" now?

I'm ashamed of some of the regions of Québec that voted Conservative. Being from rural Montérégie but now living in Montréal is like two different worlds when it comes to politics. The riding where most of my family lives was won by the Bloc Québecois but followed by the Conservatives. The riding next to it was won by the Conservatives.

I hate to admit it, but if it were not for the Bloc Québecois, there would probably be even more people here voting for the Conservatives.