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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by HardenedSteel@monero.town to c/monero@monero.town

New research paper about HavenoDex shows trades between Monero and Bitcoin are traceable.

Abstract:

...We further identify and report on a privacy vulnerability in the recently popularized Haveno exchange, demonstrating that certain Haveno trades could be detected, allowing transactions to be linked across the Monero and Bitcoin blockchains.

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[-] Wave@monero.town 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

TL;DR

Send your Monero from RetoSwap to another wallet from where you use it. Do not use it within RetoSwap for payments. Is that what it boils down to? Then I would like to remind you that in practice it makes sense to use two wallets. One for receiving and one for sending. The one for sending will be replenished by the one for receiving. https://monero.town/post/5701064

[-] HardenedSteel@monero.town 2 points 1 day ago

There's no problem with Haveno or Retoswap's wallet. The research shows about trades between Bitcoin and Monero.

Fiat trades are fine.

[-] Wave@monero.town 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So: stick with Monero. It is a common misconception that swapping back and forth makes sense. If you want to store value, you should store it in the more secure Monero and, if you need to use BTC, exchange the required amount into BTC at the time of payment.

When exchanging BTC for XMR, it is a necessary evil that you have to use the BTC. But once you have exchanged them for XMR, you are on the safe side.

[-] Lemmchen@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Does this mean Bisq is traceable as well?

[-] HardenedSteel@monero.town 5 points 2 days ago

Yes, that's not new. Someone can figure out if your bitcoins are originating from bisq (or haveno).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2096720921000245

[-] xmr_unlimited@monero.town 2 points 1 day ago

CBM monero is traceable meow?

[-] admin@monero.town 2 points 1 day ago

No, the transaction tracing relies on the transparent bitcoin chain. It does not work for the off-chain payment methods and especially not for something super private like cash by mail.

[-] xmr_unlimited@monero.town 1 points 1 day ago

Why is it news that a traceable coin is traceable

[-] admin@monero.town 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not really but the paper suggested some improvements that would make the transactions waaaay harder to link to a trade. Definitely a net-positive for privacy.

this post was submitted on 12 May 2025
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