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At least I subscribed to !memes@sopuli.xyz

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah, we need to spread out a little more. Fediverse is not about having centralized concentrations that can be targetted.

Ideally every minor Instance could have one major community located there, that could serve as the central space for that particular community. That's pretty impossible of course, but it paints the picture.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Why can't we have community tags for grouping? Like have a "tag" you can subscribe to that encompasses all "meme" communities, or "politics", etc. Then if something goes down people can default to whatever. Maybe you could even make it so if you wanted to post you could post it into tag and the tag decides based off metrics which community to actually post it in? Idk, maybe I am dumb. But that seems cool.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

That's actually not a bad idea. It'd be cool to have communities, community tags, and post tags. You could choose to sort by whichever you want. You could go to a community, or you could just look at the "solarpunk" tag if you want, similar to Twitter I guess.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 year ago

I'm running a small instance, thelemmy.club

We even have built in Voyager/WefWef at app.thelemmy.club :P

I don't advertise is too often as I'm not trying to get huge, we have about 120 users and have been up a month. But we have plenty of resources to grow a little.

[-] 21racecar12@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel like we’re seeing the inherent flaws of the fediverse here in some aspects. A completely democratic spread or spread in general of communities doesn’t seem like it’s going to work. Real people and infrastructure are behind making sure instances with communities that serve large amounts of user requests stay up and operable. Infrastructure costs people and money, and people with right skills and fundraising skills are not evenly distributed.

If an instance touts itself to be a mega-instance, that’s one thing. Lemmy is still a confusing place to understand if I should create my own community or join one. Some communities and instances have a lot more % active users and moderators than others.

People are also lazy. Hosting your own instance is “easy” until you have a popular community, or handful of popular communities. Unless you treat it like a job, not a whole lot of people are interested in spending time figuring out fundraising and dev ops to ensure their community can deal with future user growth.

Money, talent, and physical infrastructure aren’t evenly and fairly available. So it makes it difficult to produce a federated universe that doesn’t reflect these things.

Can’t expect new users to go down the rabbit hole of trying to understand what instance they should make an account on. All instances will grow over time and we are seeing a lot of unevenness because of factors stated above. Instances will surely balance out as time goes on, so I think whoever is prematurely attacking large instances—whether they are doing so for fediverse axiom related issues or not—is making fundamental mistakes of fediverse theory.

[-] serfraser@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Mine is sorta like this, it's pretty quiet but then also happens to have the biggest Steam Deck community.

[-] vacuumpizzas@t.bobamilktea.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

It has a few niche communities. !anarchychess@sopuli.xyz was the first community on your server that I subscribed to.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Anarchychess was the reason I joined sopuli.xyz, before I understood how the Fediverse worked.

All of reddit could burn, but I needed my en passant fix.

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

It's also got the biggest community covering the Russo-Ukrainian war: !ukraine@sopuli.xyz

[-] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Part of the problem is discoverability. If people don't use my instance, they rarely know we have independent communities like !todayilearned@civilloquy.com. Some, like !games@civilloquy.com are really shadowed by larger versions where some sort of multi community subscription could help a lot.

[-] Bozicus@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

I think part of the solution is to normalize the idea that you subscribe to all the communities on a topic you're interested in, even if they're small, so wherever something gets posted, you see it. Eventually some of those communities may be closed in favor of the more active ones, but as a subscriber, there's no opportunity cost.

[-] skulblaka@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Tinfoil hat theory: OG Lemmyheads are attacking the big centralized communities and taking them down in order to force all the new users to spread amongst the smaller instances like we're supposed to, preventing inevitable corporate control of the ActivityPub platform

I doubt that's anywhere close to the truth but I choose to believe it, crusty old hackers pulling the plug on their children for our own good

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

As possible as anything else, but it would be unusual. I find it strange that people are so eager to reach for unusual explanations when the actual, conventional extremist trolls absolutely exist. This would be 100% in-character for them, and would benefit their goals very clearly.

Occam's Razor.

Additionally, they would try to point the finger at absolutely everyone except for them, as that would clearly serve their goals of general misinformation and distrust.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

To be totally clear, they literally said it's a tinfoil theory. To me that implies they're just wildly speculating.

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[-] DharkStare@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For communities, I feel like a good solution would be to let mods link similar communities from different instances together, sorta like an automatic cross post.

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 1 year ago

We are kind of doing that now over at !visualnovels@lemmy.comfysnug.space

Sidebar links to our related communities is the best we can do right now.

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[-] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I highly recommend spreading out and creating accounts on other instances. Whenever one instance has issues or something, I just use another. That's the strength of the fediverse.

Plus, you might find (or create) some cool local posts, which helps spread out content.

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Mastodon account also works as a backup since you can subscribe to communities and post comments from there.

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[-] FuckSpez@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

While other instances are down, sh.itjust.works

[-] pornhubfan@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Except when sh.itjust.works went down later too lol

https://lemmy.world/post/1604919

[-] osti@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I guess I'm lucky to be on lemmy.ca, but it's concerning that a lot of the popular stuff is located on two servers. What's the point of the fediverse, then?

[-] Bozicus@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The posted content is almost all backed up elsewhere, iirc. My understanding is that the risk is less having a huge amount of content being generated on specific servers than it is having a lot of users concentrated on those servers. Restoring data from backup or migrating communities (from a content perspective, as in, rehosting) is a lot easier than having people locked out, or, worse, losing accounts altogether.

[-] Ignacio@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

When I'm sorting by all, instead of local or subscribed communities/magazines, everything I see comes from lemmy.world. It looks like Kbin/Sopuli/Beehaw are just a desert, until you sort by local and, aleluyah, there is updated content.

[-] Undearius@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago
[-] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

/c/boneappletea

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[-] remkit@lemmy.kya.moe 4 points 1 year ago

truly tragic, communities should have never centralised on the top instances.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Centralization is natural, even in the fediverse. A successful lemmy is going to look like tens of large instances, a few hundred medium instances, and a ton of tiny and irrelevant instances. Even if federation and discovery get more transparent it's still likely going to be mostly centralized.

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[-] youhavechosenwisely@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I understand why there are many servers, but why is there no central single sign on for many servers? Same with syncing community's over instances.

I'm new so not sure why or why not.

[-] astral_avocado@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So that instance admins can maintain more control over who can use their instance. I think it might be a modding nightmare otherwise.

Honestly I think such a decentralized distributed type website should exist, but moderation would be very difficult and it'd be like some kind of dark web 4chan

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

It's the same reason there isn't a central email sign on. Different people control different servers. They're all just using the same protocol so they are interoperable. Just like your email, you have an address that points to your particular account on your particular provider. Name@host.tld. It's essentially the same thing as email, just a different form of interaction.

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[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

And this is why i think forums are a much better fit for the matrix protocol, it really doesn't make much sense to use activitypub for this.

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

This right here. The primary benefit of the matrix protocol would be that a community would keep on chugging as any particular instances go up and down. There would be no "home" instance that goes down and takes the community with it.

This choice is going to see some communities get really big, but then the "home" instance goes belly-up, or makes some, ahem "management decisions" that really hurt the community, and they are going to have to painfully jump ship again and again.

The downside would be higher resource demands for instance owners -but that's a problem that will get better over time, instead of worse.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

The resource issue also isn't really that big of a deal, i've managed to keep up with tons of big chat rooms with messages every second on my OLD matrix server, and it's been refined since then.

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