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[-] Dagamant@lemmy.world 182 points 1 week ago

You literally posted the answer to your question. Here is an expansion of the details.

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 77 points 1 week ago

I haven't read the new TOS but if this review is correct it looks like a GDPR nightmare for them. Good luck to them explaining why they need to collect all that personal data.

[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The "collected data types" in that comment seems to be copy/pasted from the privacy policy

https://www.take2games.com/privacy/en-US/

[-] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago

That might be US only, where the companies have freedom to get all the customer's data and do with it as they will.

[-] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Most people don't care about privacy.

Most people in the western civilized world are on Facebook, so...

[-] moon@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 1 week ago

Due to Steam's tos updates a few months ago, isn't take-two opening itself up to a massive lawsuit?

[-] Nephalis@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hm... Ok. Thats crazy. Someone wants to create a new branch of income it seems.

Thats a fucking shame. Now I need to reconsider my plans to buy Borderlands4.

But how will they do it? Which information is gathered from which source? Most of my accounts only hold as little informations as possible. Also my Os knows nothing about me. My MS account neither.

On the other hand my steam 2FA need some mobile information.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Checkout Jump Ship? It's some weird borderlands, Star citizen, (insert other generic shooter) type game. Pretty neat, was recommended to me by a shooter fanatic friend of mine. I trust his shooting game opinion

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1757300/Jump_Ship/

[-] topherclay@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

oh cool, I can see that it's similar Borderlands by the screenshots, and I can see that it's like Star Citizen because it's not actually released yet and they're taking money for early access.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Hah exactly :D

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[-] Dagamant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Unless you use Linux, your OS knows a ton about you. On top of that, with root access to your computer they can do whatever they want and if their system gets hacked you become a member of a bot farm or crypto mine.

[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 130 points 1 week ago

Doesn’t the screenshot you posted explain what’s going on?

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That. The content of the screenshot you posted. That is what's going on.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 63 points 1 week ago

Don't just review bomb it

Report it to steam as SPYWARE, with the little flag icon on the product page

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago

Pirates are winning over my empathy.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

They've been my best friend for years

[-] mrbubblesort@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Piracy never gave me up, never let me down

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

A government that cares for is people would ban this shit and procecute any company trying to find ways around it.

[-] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

Apart from the politics, the Borderlands games themselves are hardly utter shit for the most part.

[-] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago

The writing is garbage but,... it's a game for edgy teenagers. It would.

The gameplay for me is Diablo with guns. It would suck for anyone not into that. If anyone isn't into that, don't buy Borderlands games.

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Got to argue, I'm a 39 year old gamer, started with PCs back in 90s.

The games are casual fun, they work great as co-op shooters. Story is what it is, but the games themselves are lighthearted and just pure entertaining fun.

Not masterpieces. Just good.

[-] keckbug@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The first felt really fresh at the time. FPS was dominated by various milsim shooters and Halo, and the irreverence and clever cell shading style worked well.

Two dialed things up in scope and scale and added some nice environmental variety.

But the rest? The presequel? The 3rd? I just couldn’t. It was more of the same, tired, repetitive, the jokes started really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I had fun early on, but I’m out.

[-] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Except lawbreakers but he tainted it by supporting it and made ppl against it

[-] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Bro thank you for mentioning Lawbreakers. Such a fun game that was cut short.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the game's store page doesn't mention that it requires root access, like it does for some other games. am i missing something?

edit: the words "root" and "level" (ctrl+f'd each one separately) don't appear anywhere in the EULA. "access" shows up in a couple spots that definitely are NOT talking about root level access. i'm all about outrage over enshittification, but so far this sounds like bullshit

[-] lath@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Maybe it's hidden in the in-game eula and they're using their launcher to collect all that info before we even get to agree or disagree.

[-] EnsignPacts@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I checked the Steam depots. It seems the game files haven’t been updated since 2022. All that seems to have changed is some license agreement in February. Seems to be a thing across take two games, and not specific to borderlands 2.

Basically nothing has changed in real terms for this game. Maybe borderlands 4 might have draconian DRM, who knows.

[-] tomi000@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

They can drop updates anytime after they made sure to have you accept the spyware.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

I only play AAA games on GeForce Now (cloud). If the game can't run on my Linux system or on the cloud, I ain't touching it. Also, there are so many wonderful games that do not require a colonoscopy into your personal data to be played.

[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

I noticed too.

[-] Mordikan@kbin.earth 8 points 1 week ago

I'm assuming the post is actually about DRM operating at ring 0. That's not really root level though. That's kernel level. Root is still operating in user-mode and politely asking the kernel to interact with hardware.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

But it doesn't have the mandatory kernel level disclaimer either.

[-] Mordikan@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago

I did some more reading on this, and it apparently isn't due to DRM, its about an update to ToS that occurred in April. The update expands data collection for advertising and forced-arbitration. Arguably that's worse than kernel-level DRM. DRM can be ripped, legal shenanigans can't.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Sure, but it also seems like it's data that you offer up via a 2K account, which I don't have. I have a user name tied to my Steam ID, and that's about it.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You think that will stop this from spreading like cancer?

[-] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

On one side of the ring, greedy corps which want to profile you better than the NSA does. On the other, drama-hungry and social networks-fueled outrage culture.

That's how an old game giveaway backfires and becomes the scandal of the day.

[-] vortexal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is the EULA also applicable to the Linux version, assuming that Aspyr did actually port the game to Linux and not just use Wine or something?

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The Linux version is utter dog shit. It's native but it's really terrible looking.

[-] vortexal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Is it not fully compatible with newer versions of Linux? All the gameplay and comparison videos I've seen look identical to the Windows version.

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Why isnt Steam banning them? Munny?

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I’ll just stick to playing my console copy

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