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[-] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Third term? I'd be glad if we came to terms with it by his 6th term.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The guys so old, I'm not sure hell make it through this term. He's clearly not well, but that's what makes this all crazier. Dems at least knew to kick out their senile old man, how the Republicans are okay with this is wild.

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[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's called "disappearing someone" and it was something that was supposedly done by dictators and tyrants.

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Like today's USA.

[-] aramova@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

Watch videos from the Mustard Mussolini's events. His supporters would gladly sign up for that.

[-] Narauko@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I am pro-border in the fact that I think borders serve an important purpose and that laws surrounding immigration should exist and be enforced. That said, I think fixing immigration requires following the god damned laws and constitution, you don't enforce the law by breaking it. Fuck! Immigration courts and the entire immigration bureaucracy needs to be beefed up to handle this, and law enforcement of any kind needs to be working under the judicial system. Warrants are needed, you can't suspend habeas corpus, cops should never be masked and anonymous, and all law enforcement should be held to a higher standard than everyone else.

I think Trump is causing the legitimate action of enforcing our laws to look bad, and he is harming law and order for decades or longer. It should not be controversial to enforce laws, and if it is those laws need to be changed.

Despite how scofflaw this administration is, however, I do not think Trump will run for a third term. I don't think we as a country or even the Republican party as a whole is willing to that blatantly flout the constitution, and I think that at least 60% of both parties want what is best for the country. I don't think actual Nazis or true jackbooted fascists are more than 10% of the right (I can't believe I now think it's that high), but do believe 20-30% are exploited by grifters and opportunists. That might be naive, but it seems like.everyone is abandoning their faith in the fundamental good of others all across the country/world and I think that is sad.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We could spend all day throwing out numbers, making predictions, arguing over facts, and burning each other out. We could parade around our favorite talking heads and share link after link that proves our exact point. These are the mechanisms of control. These are weeds that grow faster than any one person can cut them back.

We've given so much of our lives to serve some cause that none of us believe in. Now your very liberty is under threat, if only you had the eyes to see it.

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[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Generally people in America don’t get organized until there’s a disaster. That’s one of the lessons of the Great Depression/New Deal. Not the most optimal way to maintain democracy. It’s not really “maintenance” if you wait for the thing to break and then fix it.

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

How long will people

The Gestapo could be hauling them away in cuffs and putting them away in camps and some will just go "why is this happening to me? there must be some mistake"

Anyone who is still on the fence is either only tuned into propaganda or is incapable of reasoning.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

funny how you never hear from the "cold dead hands" guys when tyranny actually happens

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[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think the line between a liberal democracy and fascism is much blurrier than most people think. I suspect the transition from one to the other, going in either direction, is entirely dependent on how much internal forces threaten the ruling capitalist class.

Right now, I think the US is on the decline but hasn’t yet experienced a crisis which really threatens the power of the capitalist class. Fascists seeking power therefore need to manufacture crises in order to accumulate power. That’s where I think the US is at right now.

However, I’m not sure how well it will really work. Democratic state leaders are effectively demonstrating that the existing law enforcement structures are perfectly capable of violently cracking down on dissent. So if you’re a wealthy capitalist, why would you push your bought and paid for judges and politicians to make Trump president for life? It seems like a needlessly risky move in my opinion.

That said, we can only say that the rich will operate rationally to protect their own interests on average. Individually, they can be wildly erratic like Elon Musk has proven to be. As such, the more wealth is concentrated into fewer and fewer hands, the less predictable the outcomes are.

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

True, fascism is the ultimate weapon that capitalists use in reaction to labor movements and class consciousness gaining strength. In fact, I’d argue that given modern advances in communication technology, which allow people to communicate and organize easier than ever, a fascist swing was almost inevitable.

It’s a shame that western world leaders don’t like dialectic materialism. We might have identified the problem before it seized power.

[-] lorski@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

For real! People are just so fucking stupid.

[-] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

It seems that way in contact too.

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