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[-] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A gif showing a GRUB boot menu that has had a theme applied to it. The user can choose between a hand holding Tux, or another hand holding the Windows 3.1 logo.
At least I made it fun for myself and my Windows-using sibling with whom I share a computer with. GRUB themes are cool! Also, I didn't make it myself, you can find the theme here: https://www.pling.com/p/2275254

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What happens on triple or more boot? Is it just a tree?

"Linux or windows"

  • Linux
    "Ubuntu or other?"
  • other
    "Arch or other"
  • other
    "Void or FreeBSD"
    ...
[-] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Linux was already specified, so no BSD

[-] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

This is fantastic, I should do this

[-] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I didn't even know grub could display images.

[-] nonagonOrc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That is amazing

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago

some icons there seems to be ai slop tho (not win and tux)

[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Also seems like it would be fun to do with rEFInd

[-] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

This is so funny, The windows should be blue coloured and linux be red.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago
[-] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

Last time I booted into windows it wiped my grub partition. That was the day I decided I didn’t really need windows anymore.

[-] Carrot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

For anyone that needs to hear this, the way to prevent this is to have Linux and Windows on separate drives.

[-] Marduk73@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I gave that up decades ago. If i can't do it in Linux, i don't need to do it.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago
[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

The day I wiped all partitions from my dual boot and started fresh with no windows on the machine was a revelation. My heart sang and my soul wept with joy. Windows lives in a caged state now, a neutered monster I rarely demand dance for me because it is ugly and awkward and on an external drive I don't care about.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

Best setup ever:

1)install Linux on one drive.
2)install Windows on a second drive.
3)boot from grub on the first drive and add an entry to boot Windows.
4)on a 3rd drive format it ext3 or optionally dos. Mount this puppy at /home or even /home/user.
5)don't let windows touch you Linux home drive ever. Fuck windows and Microsoft. Both can suck my entire ass. If you ever need to share files between these systems use a pen drive. Microsoft doesn't deserve you. Just use it as a last resort, do your thing and GTFO ASAP.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I used to run Windows on an esata drive that I would only power up occasionally in order to game, and it still somehow -- and I don't remember how -- managed to ruin my computer.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, isolated home drive is the way to go. You just nuke Linux and windows and restart but your stuff is safe.

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

That space at the end of 1) is doing some heavy lifting.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Time to install to OneDrive.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I've got this setup, but optimized slightly:

  1. Install linux on one drive
[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

LOL exactly!

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What's wrong with a VM? I set up a Win10 instance in VMM right after I switched to Linux full time 10 months ago, but I had to use it exactly once to configure the RGB on my keyboard, and haven't had a reason to boot it up since.

From what I understood, it runs on 'Bare Metal' which means that it theoretically should preform just as well as if you booted into it, with the only overhead being the *nix which is minimal.

I'm not saying it's better, I'm honestly asking because I have very little experience with it.

I used to dual boot back in the day, but that was when I was still on HDDs and the long ass boot times meant I usually just stayed in Windows if I was planning on gaming that day.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

That's not how that works. I think your confusing bare metal with bare metal hypervisor. The latter is meant to mean a Type-1 Hypervisor, which KVM isn't anyway but that's another story.

Without GPU pass through you aren't going to get nearly the graphics performance for something like gaming. I've also had issues with KVM and libvirt breaking during sleep. It's a lot more janky than you make out.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Keep it contained in a VM, best hazardous containment.

[-] juipeltje@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Me booting into windows just to play some gta online

[-] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I still don't understand gta online. For me the whole point of the GTA games was that you could do anything without a single thought because you were the only real person involved. That disappears when you add other people.

[-] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

for me it was that i was able to play with friends. i don't have any, but if i did, we would've had some fun with heists.

[-] BeN9o@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I'm actually happy to say this is me, I recently installed Mint on a separate m.2 drive from windows, I wanted to just test it. I now find myself almost permanently on Mint, only going back to windows once to play a multiplayer game that isn't on Linux yet.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Same. There are one or two things that don't work on Linux yet or are buggy so I have Windows on a separate drive. I hardly use it though.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Windows in VM with vitio drivers and guest tools

[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

And looking glass for good games performance for those select few titles that otherwise refuse

[-] Morganica@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Cries in VR games.

[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This is how it is for me. I have Linux and Windows on their own drives.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was triple booting a Hackintosh for a while and kept them on their own drives. You have to because Windows updates like to screw with the UEFI of the drive it's install on at random time. Somehow, Window was less stable than OS X running on unapproved hardware.

[-] raxen001@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I play ally single player games in fedora and multiplayer in windows. Lol

[-] rem26_art@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

When i still had a dual boot on my main PC, everytime I went into Windows and back into Linux, I'd have to replug my drawing tablet for it to work properly. Even after a complete shutdown. I have no clue what caused that.

[-] ramscoop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Or like so... (/home is on another disk, no windows)

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago

So in my dual boot setup Linux messes up the dedicated audio card so bad it not only sounds like ass on Linux but it somehow garbles Windows audio until I power cycle the entire thing. It is entirely possible it does permanent damage to the hardware. Some of the electrical clicks you hear from it are genuinely concerning.

Had to plug in Linux audio via the motherboard audio and use different sources for each OS to work around it.

Does change how the meme reads to me.

Also, maaaan does Linux need to completely redo its audio systems from the ground up. It's so bad that saying that isn't even that controversial, which is insane in these circles.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What distro? What sound card?

You might try something new that runs pipewire by default, if you haven’t already. But I might also know of some specific quirks with specific cards.

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[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

From the ground up has been done at least once, but given there are multiple layers of interface and driver, it might not be at the right level for whatever hardware you have.

I'm thinking specifically of how pipewire recently came along and basically took over the functions previously provided by pulseaudio, to the point of pretending to be Pulse where necessary so that things don't break.

FWIW, I recently learned that my motherboard has features that weren't unlocked by default in my distro. Not related to sound, mind you, but nonetheless, I've gained access to that now. It required loading an extra kernel module. The same might be required to get the best out of your sound card.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago

Nah, it's just not supported. Or rather, it's poorly supported so it sounds worse than in Windows and it just doesn't want to properly dual boot without a power cycle. Honestly, I haven't checked if the soft reboot issue has been reported. Pretty sure it hasn't. I could be nice and go find where to file a bug, but I haven't gotten around to it and, frankly, there are enough other problems with this particular setup that nobody is fixing and are getting dismissed with "it's the manufacturer's fault" that I'm not particularly inclined to go out of my way.

We don't talk enough about how spotty new motherboard support is for Linux, either. At least sound is a recurring talking point. But yeah, newer motherboards often don't pick up networking and audio hardware out of the box and need a lot of troubleshooting. Everybody is so proud of how well Linux revitalizes old laptops but nobody likes to talk about how that's because they're old, and newer stuff may not work well or at all. Early adopting hardware platforms on Linux can be a "going on an adventure" Hobbit meme experience.

And you're right that it's not so much about audio getting reingeneered again as it getting done right. I just don't know that the current patchwork barely holding together can be salvaged by bolting more pieces on top. Every time Linux needs to replace something this way it's a years-long argument between nerds and a whole damn mess (see Wayland still being litigated, somehow). Audio never gets enough attention anywhere and I have very low trust that a new attempt wouldn't end up in the same mess they have now, at least for a long while. It extra sucks because Windows audio used to be kinda bad, but now it's... kinda not? So being a dual-booter it's just an extra reason to make that choice of which boot option to pick from the menu.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

That shouldn't be possible as the hardware gets reinitialized on boot

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

You would friggin' think.

And yet.

Turns out a DAC is a fairly complicated and self-sufficient bundle of software and hardcore electrical circuitry, so apparently you can mess it up so badly it will remain broken across soft reboots. Who knew!

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