UK’s chief rabbi says Bob Vylan Glastonbury chant was ‘vile Jew-hatred’ (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

By this logic the rabbi seems to be saying something horribly antisemitic doesn't he? Because if all Jews are represented by the IDF, and the IDF murders children with Glee, isn't that saying that all Jews are baby killers? Cuz that's something I've heard antisemitic people say before. Now I guess it includes this rabbi.

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Saying antizionism=antisemitism is saying genocide is a core part of Judaism. and I don't think you can say anything more antisemitic

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

"UK's chief rabbi is a mouthpiece for fascistic genocidal regime"

[-] RubberDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Imagine the Pope, saying that calling for the death of paedophile priests was a call for the death of all Christians.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

It's pretty fucking gross that the media is making the folks literally shooting live ammo at refugees as the victim.

[-] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

They do what their boss tells them to do, are fired, or they resign.

All the respected journalists already resigned.

"The boss" is a billionaire, because billionaires own all mass media. They dictate what you do and do not see, and what side is given more or less support.

It has been this way in the past, it got a little better, now it's completely out of control. If you let billionaire nazis have full control of your press, you're going to have a completely nazi press.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

The pope would never call for the death of pedophiles.

„Death penalty for pedophiles“ is a common slogan used by neonazis.

Pedophiles need psychological treatment or prison if they are a danger.

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Saying the IDF are murderers is not antisemitism it's the truth. Equating the IDF with all Jews is antisemitism. So who's the antisemite here?

[-] LongboardingLad@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

It's great seeing Bob Vylan start to get controversies under their belt. They've earned it! If you want tracks to listen to, England's Ending, Take That, and We Live Here are all bangers

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 0 points 5 months ago

Sorry - I'm too old to understand. Is the controversy good or bad?

Like, how South Park would actively mock religions because they knew the news would give them more exposure?

[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

It wasn't though, was it. The IDF are not Jews in general; they are multi-ethnic and are the armed forces of a country at war. Would a chant of "death to the Russian Armed Forces" be Russophobic? "Death to the Wehrmacht" for anti-German during World War 2? "Death to Hamas" for Islamophobia?

Identification of the armed forces of a state with a state is a sign of fascism, and the identification of the state with an ethnic group is a sign of extreme nationalism - though admittedly that is less the case with Israel and Jewish people.

Chanting "death, death to the IDF" is violent and inappropriate at a music festival. "Fuck the IDF" would've been fine though.

[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

Chanting "death, death to the IDF" is violent and inappropriate at a music festival. "Fuck the IDF" would've been fine though.

No it's not. Mass music festivals are perfectly acceptable places to make political statements. This has been done for generations now, i.e. Rage Against the Machine.

And when we say "Death, death to the IDF", we are accurately talking about the IDF like the monsters they are. For a scathing rebuke of respectability politics, I defer to this essay:

I am so fucking mad, sad, angry, and enraged at the actions of the elite and the hateful reality they’ve structured; that the only honest way to express my emotions is to wave a giant neon hatecock in the face of these hypocritical lying shitmongers. I don’t care if they hear me – they would never care, even if I was “respectable.” But they can’t fucking ignore me. They can’t fucking look away. They can only shake their head and claim, ever more shrilly as our world spirals deeper into shit, that “You’ll never convince a moderate with that language!” Fuck you. I don’t want to convince moderates. I want to fucking change shit. I want to inspire people, to get them angry. And if that offends you, if my anger, my emotions, my rage at getting fucked over, over and over and over again, bothers you? Take a step back, and think about what you truly value. Is it the messenger? Or the message?

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

"death to hamas" is often considered to be Islamophobic here which just shows how irrational and stupid everything about this conflict is.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 6 months ago

So he is equating the IDF, a genocidal gorganization, priding itself in executing medics, sniping children and starving millions of people while baiting some of them with the promise of food into a kill zone, with Judaism and Jews in general.

That sounds like an extreme version of the blood libel to me.

[-] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

People use religions to commit hate, murder, and genocide. Both islam and judiaism do this regularly. All other religions do as well.

Not all religious people are extremists, but they do support extremist hate religions.

"But I don't support the hate parts of my religion that are clearly printed in my holy hate book". Yeah, right. Fuck religions and those that support them.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What a load of bigoted bullshit.

There is about 2 billion Christians in the world and 1.8 billion Muslims. If they were to "support extremist hate" like you describe it, we would be at a global war that would dwarf any war before it.

Meanwhile people who are outspoken Anti-theists, often support the most vile supremacism, combining their belief of intellectual supremacism with beliefs of racial, cultural, ableist or other ideas of supremacism and subsequently justify bigoted violence including genocide. This also holds true for Zionism that for its longest time was a secular movement that faced heavy criticism by religious Jews and took a long time to create its warped understanding of Judaism in service of its imperialist ideology.

Of course it is convenient to blame imperialist violence on religion so as to distract from the imperialist and racist violence in your own ideology. This is also why some of the staunchest anti-theists are big supporters of US Fascism under Trump, willing to work together with the Evangelicals as the main goal is Fascism.

[-] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

This is the same guy who convicted a Viner for teaching his gf’s dog to sieg heil, right?

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Streisand Effect yet again. Never knew of Bob Vylan before. Funny that all the protestations to his very clear message have only spread it further. Truth will not be silent.

[-] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 1 points 6 months ago

No it wasn't, fuck every zionist and every person who thinks what Israel is doing is ok. **** **** to the IDF!

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 6 months ago

Death to the idf the occupying force who is comiting a genocide

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

The UK needs a new chief rabbi. Justifying sucking Bibi's cock with Zionism isn't a legitimate religion.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago

I'd replace him with a rabbit.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

The UK needs no chief rabbi. Why does the UK have a chief rabbi?

[-] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Every cult needs a leader. Without a cult leader, people just make up their own religious bullshit. With a cult leader, the religious bullshit is still completely incoherent, but only coming from one source.

They should be held completely responsible for their religious lies.

Which religion? All of them. Fuck religions and those that support them.

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 0 points 6 months ago

Saying that critcism of Israel is antisemitic is echoing the view of bigots that antisemitism is a legitimate response to protest the actions of Israel. Nice to see that Israel and antisemitic bigots agree on something.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Incitement to kill is not criticism.

[-] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Yeah, the religions are ramping up their hate speech. So what do you do? Let them keep at it until there's blood in the streets?

Nope. You arrest the priests inciting religious terror.

It's that simple. Stop protecting people inciting religious hatred openly because they're part of this or that religion.

Fuck religions are those that support them.

[-] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

The IDF is a terrorist organization, not a religion. Not that being a religion would make them exempt. Hope this helps!

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io -1 points 6 months ago

Is Bob Vylan's name intentionally based on Bob Dylan and meant to rhyme with it?

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 months ago

Not long ago people would chant for peace at Glastonbury. Now they demand more death, destruction, and war.

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