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[-] the_q@lemmy.world 135 points 11 months ago

No they aren't. Nothing is happening. I'm exhausted watching day in and day out criminals going unpunished, regulatory groups being more and more corrupt and having every article read like "we finally got em!" Nothing is changing for the better. It's just political drama to keep people from burning this country down.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 21 points 11 months ago

It's exhausting. I'm exhausted. One of their goals is to wear us down until we just accept something that seems like a compromise just fire a moment of peace. And for fucks sake we could use one. But as shitty as things are, we're a hell of a lot better off than just burning everything down and starting over.

[-] osarusan@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago

The American people are the ones paying the consequences, not the GOP. Every stupid game they play is at the cost of ordinary peoples' lives and well-being.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

Lol as the article indicates, things are happening. Every election after Trump won the presidency has been the GOP losing. Midterms and even his 1st reelection campaign have been decent losses for the GOP. Things don't seem like they will get better for them anytime soon, especially since they have almost not changed at all to the electoral feedback.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

They are letting a twice impeached rapist run for president again while being embroiled in multiple legal battles including trying to overthrow our government.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Not like they have a choice, and that's rather the point. Besides, the GOP doesn't control who runs and who doesn't.

OTHO, they could have impeached him twice, among 100 other things they could have done to stifle this fucking mess.

Told my old boss that Trump's election would cause the Republicans to disintegrate. He was genuinely puzzled. I couldn't put my finger on it in 2015, but I still stated it would be the end of the party.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Republican “leaders” could, in fact, do something. They simply choose not to. In almost all cases, they are paid not to, the corrupt human garbage that they are.

For instance, they could man up and tell Trump to shut his god damn mouth, and stop breaking the law, because these things are unacceptable. Yet they refuse to do so, and continue to provide cover for him.

And thus, as you predicted 8 years ago, the GOP continues to disintegrate.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Not so simple, is it? Say you hold an R seat, in any given legislature. Polls, and reality, have shown you, over and over again, that to speak against Trump gets you thrown out on your ass.

Now where are you? What power to you have to make change, affect policy? You're mud. Better to hang in and try to effect change from within. Better than nothing?

This shit should have been cut off in 2015, with a guillotine. Past that, already too late.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I wasn't referring to just Republicans. Our government is a disgrace... all of it.

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] the_q@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That isn't what I'm saying, and not even applicable to the conversation. To be clear, Republicans are far worse than Democrats. I'm saying that even the Democrats aren't doing a good enough job. If you think otherwise then I don't know what to tell you.

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Sure, but they still have a house majority, control the Supreme Court (and a lot of judges in other courts). They basically still have all three branches of government in a stranglehold. That is far from seeing any serious consequences, and they will be able to fuck shit up for everybody for an indefinite time into the future.

[-] agentsquirrel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

This is the paradox of the Republican party, though. When they're losing is when they're winning. It's a nihilistic apocalyptic group that thrives on the fears of people, much like a terrorist organization. Despite everything pointing to them being a diminishing minority, they're able to control or paralyze much of federal and state governments, and they're going to continue to do this for decades to come.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 79 points 11 months ago

I want to see them suffer real consequences for their actions for the next several decades. I want them to genuflect in front of Americans and show actual remorse and work to repair all they've done.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

I just want them to vanish, to go away with a whimper, to be considered by our grandchildren's generation to be as laughably irrelevant and impotent as the Bull Moose party. Prosecution would be great, but honestly I'll be happy enough with their oblivion.

[-] Kyrrrr@midwest.social 25 points 11 months ago

I want him to become the joke that Nixon has become in Futurama. Only remembered for being an evil idiot

[-] Cannibal_MoshpitV3@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Nixon resigned in 1974 and the damage he caused to Republicans was overwhelmingly repaired by 1980 when Ronald Reagan swept into the Oval Office. Don't get your hopes up even if Trump goes away - these bastards are relentless.

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 17 points 11 months ago

That will likely never happen; they view humility as weakness.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Yep this.

Real men don't admit they were wrong /s

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 43 points 11 months ago

We’ve all been paying the price for years. Do they ever learn? No.

[-] Introversion@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

What they learn: There’s no consequences.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

This article has been published daily for the last 7 years.

[-] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 1 points 11 months ago

Except it was published a day ago. I don't recall ever seeing one like it, no joke. You must be saying that all articles that mention any consequence to the GOP from every source on earth are all the same. Even if I were to accept that ridiculous concept, "daily for the last 7 years" sounds wrong af

[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

At first I thought the author, Michael Cohen, was the Michael Cohen, which would have made for a very different article.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Imagine if an American publication the size of The Guardian had the guts to publish this article. There’s - gasp French! In there. Big words! Oh mercy, I do declare!

They wont. American corporate news is insufferably broken. All hail the conquering dollar.

[-] Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 11 months ago

Don't get too excited, when it comes to domestic politics, they're still all the same.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


More than 11 years ago, before Donald Trump emerged from the primordial ooze of the far-right fever swamp, before the aborted January 6 insurrection and before the latest spasm of Republican extremism felled House speaker Kevin McCarthy, two renowned political scientists, Thomas Mann, and Norman Ornstein, put their finger on the essence of increasingly dysfunctional US politics: the Republican party.

Mann and Ornstein argued that the Grand Old Party (GOP) had become an “insurgent outlier” that was “ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition”.

Legislating is not seen as a tool for bettering the plight of the American people but rather an opportunity to troll Democrats and play to the perceived slights of the party’s rank-and-file supporters.

McCarthy, like countless Republican supplicants over the past eight years, realised that his political aspirations were directly tied to his willingness to support Trump and the extremist forces within the party that have rallied around him.

Another Republican apostate, former presidential candidate and current Utah senator Mitt Romney, who twice voted to convict Trump in his impeachment trials, recently announced that he wouldn’t run for re-election.

In a series of interviews with the Atlantic’s McKay Coppins, he recounted how, “in public”, his fellow Republican senators “played their parts as Trump loyalists, often contorting themselves rhetorically to defend the president’s most indefensible behaviour.


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[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

The Guardian is still a good newspaper in their factual reporting, especially as they're still not paywalled, but their opinion pieces (comment is free) have been very click baity for years now.

It's always best to take them with a large pinch of salt.

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