What's this dude talking about?! Everyone knows no one hates React like people who code in React 😂 No one is gonna get pissed off watching this.
Do React devs really hate React?
Isn’t the adage that you either have haters or no users?
I don't, but it can be really annoying when I accidentally fall for a common trap that I supposedly know how to avoid after all these years! Gah.
I love this guy he's a fucking freak of nature
Umm this is just being retro. Like using a film camera.
Raw film is objectively higher quality than raw digital. Are you saying that C is objectively higher quality than Rust?
Excerpt film isn’t objectively better…
That's what your original comment was eluding to, so I was confirming with you that that's what you meant.
Data visualization ≠ UI and signal processing is traditionally done in C
That looks like buttons in the thumbnail, on the left of the visualisation.
I'd say that's enough to call it UI.
UI. User Interface. The bridge between a system and a user. So anything, literally any information transfer from the user to the system OR from the system to the user, is a User Interface.
Would you agree that the dashboard of a car is UI? If so, isn't that just data visualization?
There used to be a UI library on the Amiga called MUI.
It used a bunch of C macros to let you define the window and all the controls. Was honestly pretty good considering it was like 30 years ago.
Unrelated but there is microui, a 1100 loc library in ansi C for a basic UI.
What's React?
React is a Javascript based web development programming language developed by Facebook to make pages run faster and better. I learned it as part of a MERN stack full web development course.
to make pages run faster and better.
Huh, well that's a funny way of saying "break the model of web page as document and fuck up the entire web!"
Oh stop it. Are you saying you don't enjoy pressing the "Back" button in your browser, but staying on the same page. Therefore breaking the page so you refresh and lose whatever the fuck you were doing? /s
Yeah because documents are limiting and we want to do stuff that executables can do but with a better distribution model.
Shoulda been something more like Java Web Start.
Maybe. But performance, availability, and security killed a number of viable options. Flash was always more ubiquitous than Java on the web but it eventually died too.
Flash was also cancer that ruined web pages.
The reason Java Web Start wasn't, was specifically because once you clicked on the link, it downloaded the app and started it as a real desktop application, with its own window and taskbar entry and whatnot. It didn't rely on being embedded in HTML (I'm specifically not talking about Java applets, BTW -- they sucked too) or manipulating the DOM for its UI; it could use Swing and have the same look and feel as a native application.
Javascript based web development ~~programming language~~ UI library
On the other hand React Native is a JavaScript based development language developed by Facebook to make applications run slower and worse.
Used for rendering UIs on a Document Object Model. JS was a mistake.
I'm an elitist asshole and I hate that people say "react dev" when really it's "web dev that uses react"
react devs are not web devs. they're special
Is this distinction really all that useful?
I suppose you could write a react app that doesn’t use “the web”? But you still might just say they are a react developer.
I think the web part refers to web technologies.
Yeah I guess I’m old. Seems like everything is called “web dev” these days.
I was answering a question somewhere related to something like C/C++ and Operating System level stuff. Someone replied asking where I learned “web dev.” I would consider that general programming, or possibly systems programming, but certainly not “web dev.”
There are also react devs creating the windows 11 start menu.
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