It's insane how twisted in the head you have to be to think that killing your daughter is the honorable thing to do!
Religion is harmful to both individuals and society. Extreme religion is extremely harmful to both individuals and society.
Not sure if this is relevent, but I just wanna share my story.
My mom wants me dead because I have depression.
Not schizophrenia, not sociopathy/psychopathy, just being a little more sad than "normal".
The reasoning? "Because you wouldn't be able to enjoy life anyways, and your life is meaning less", threatning to leave me out of the will because "you can just get welfare from the government", despite me helping her with a lot of her stuff like bussiness licenses, filing taxes, translation (they are first-gen immigrants), etc. Like wtf is this concept of leaving someone with nothing when they have been so helpful throughout your life, just because "you have depression and you are no longer useful to society". Then put obstacles in me getting antidepresdants because "you can't be relying on meds for the rest of your life, just go outside" bitch wtf? Go outside to the ICE agents swarming the streets?
(I'm Chinese-American)
I mean at lesst I'm not dead yet, so I probably don't deserve to complain too much, some people have it worse than me, I mean this person in the article literally got murdered. Tbh there were moments when I was a teen that I thought my mom was gonna stab me when I sleep. The fact I'm even alive is a miracle.
This toxic culture is why I never want to return to PRC, not to mention, the CCP problem.
But... now... the USA is also on fire becauses... I mean... you know... current events...
Life is going great! 🫠
Can't complain! (literally can't complain else you get arrested)
That's horrible, I don't really know what to say, except best wishes to you.
I always thought Chinese were a more pragmatic people than most, but this is not pragmatic of your parents, this is cynical and evil.
Chinese culture is like you pretend to be very nice to other people, but the abuse is within the family.
Like the 红包 (red packets) for Lunar New Year is so... wild.
Like so you give your friend's kids $50 and their parents give your kids $50 then pretend like this is an actual gift, but then when they go home, the parents are like: "给我帮你保管" (Let me help you safeguard it)
Like... what is the point of the red packets then? Money gets shuffled but it just end up in the same people's hands.
I mean at least that's how my parents did it, I think my aunt's more Americanized family actually let their kids buy stuff?
I went to my cousin's house once (not willingly btw) and their family arrived in the US earlier than mine, so they cousins were born on US soil (as opposed to me who is first-gen immigrant), their father (my uncle) was from Hong Kong, so basically very western-minded.
They had an entire game system (Nintendo Wii something) in their house, I never had a game system lol, I was so jealous. Tbf they are slightly richer (like "middle class" rich), but even later on when my parents got more disposable income (like teenage years), I never got any games, or toys.
Like the vibes I was getting was that their household was still very strict, but not they actually get to have fun sometimes.
I think its this "filial piety" thing that is fucking toxic as hell.
I guess I see this with politics as well. I mean on the surface you never see Xi acting like the buffoons in the US-Republican party (I mean y'all know those crazy trump tweets and thinnly veiled racism, that sort of crazy stuff). The CCP might not outright do crazy shit like that, they do put up this act that make them look good, but deep down, they are both the same. In this analogy, the country is like the family, the civillians are like the children, children gets yelled at or even beaten (police harassing dissidents), but then the parents (the CCP) talks to everyone else (other countries) like everything is fine.
Family, Country, these patterns repeat.
I mean on the other hand, the US is like that conservative man in the suburb that open-carries a gun everywhere (the 18 aircraft carriers and hundreds of military bases world wide) and sees everyone as a threat ("inverventions" in other countries)
Seems like culture and politics are so intertwined.
(I feel like I'm rambling... idk if this wall of text even makes sense)
My goodness! This is a lot for you to have to go through any day of the week, let alone also with depression. You're doing great that you can talk about it, and I hope you have a community and/or friendship group to fill in the void she has created.
Leaving (or even threatening to leave) you out of the will is super messed up, I hope you have siblings/family that would stand up for you, even if only after the fact.
She may have her own mental issues or even past trauma that she's projecting onto her relationship with you and your depression. I dont say that to excuse or justify her, just to acknowledge that you aren't who she thinks you are, your depression isn't what she thinks it is, and your journey is within your control (relatively speaking), not hers.
Regarding the united states: we can't really control it. However, we can control our own 'back yards'. Find one thing, no matter how small, that you dont like and try to fix that in your life or your community. Something obtainable. (Eg, dont like single use plastics bc planet, dont want to pay for reusable bags bc oligarchs...then make reusable bags 🎉 - instructions Its ok to start small. 1000 people doing little things as a start is way better than a nobody doing anything because it 'WoNt MaKe A dIfFeReNcE'
Nazis. Those Nazis that want to hurt you, have NO value whatsoever.
Note: There is exactly zero religion involved in honor killings; this is a 100% cultural act. Here are some choice quotes from Wikipedia:
Honor killings are primarily associated with the Middle East, the Maghreb and the Indian subcontinent, but they are also rooted in other societies, such as the Philippines, Northern Caucasus, Latin America, East Africa, and historically in Mediterranean Europe.
In French culture, stories about such homicides were romanticized and featured prominently in French literature of the 19th century, and "In literature as in life, unconventional women needed to be severely punished lest their defiant attitudes inspire further acts of rebellion".[33] In Corsica, there was a strong custom of vendetta, which required Corsicans to murder anyone who wronged their family honor. Between 1821 and 1852 approximately 4,300 vendetta killings were perpetrated in Corsica.[34] France also had a strong culture of dueling meant to uphold honor, and France was called by the National Geographic "the dueling capital of Europe".[35]
Though it may seem in a modern context that honor killings are tied to certain religious traditions, the data does not support this claim.[95][93] Research in Jordan found that teenagers who strongly endorsed honor killings in fact did not come from more religious households than teens who rejected it.[93] The ideology of honor is a cultural phenomenon that does not appear to be related to religion, be it Middle Eastern or Western countries, and honor killings likely have a long history in human societies which predate many modern religions.[96] In the US, a rural trend known as the "small-town effect" exhibits elevated incidents of argument-related homicides among white males, particularly in honor-oriented states in the South and the West, where everyone "knows your name and knows your shame." This is similarly observed in rural areas in other parts of the world.
Provocation in English law and related laws on adultery in English law, as well as Article 324 of the French penal code of 1810 were legal concepts which allowed for reduced punishment for the murder committed by a husband against his wife and her lover if the husband had caught them in the act of adultery.[101] On 7 November 1975, Law no. 617/75 Article 17 repealed the 1810 French Penal Code Article 324. The 1810 penal code Article 324 passed by Napoleon was copied by Middle Eastern Arab countries. It inspired Jordan's Article 340 which permitted the murder of a wife and her lover if caught in the act at the hands of her husband (today the article provides for mitigating circumstances).[102] France's 1810 Penal Code Article 324 also inspired the 1858 Ottoman Penal Code's Article 188, both the French Article 324 and Ottoman article 188 were drawn on to create Jordan's Article 340 which was retained even after a 1944 revision of Jordan's laws which did not touch public conduct and family law;[103][104][105] article 340 still applies to this day in a modified form.[102] France's Mandate over Lebanon resulted in its penal code being imposed there in 1943–1944, with the French-inspired Lebanese law for adultery allowing the mere accusation of adultery against women resulting in a maximum punishment of two years in prison while men have to be caught in the act and not merely accused, and are punished with only one year in prison.
So yeah, this is a big problem in many parts of the world and if your reaction to innocent women losing their lives is to make a tired and irrelevant point, then please don't.
Duelling was rarely to the death, and between consenting individuals whom were both armed.
Seems odd to draw a comparison between that and unarmed children getting murdered by family members.
Funny then that when they move to another culture, and take it with them, it is always muslims.
I’m willing to bet this is less about religion and more about an awful piece of shit human. There’s many cases of people killing their kids in the US that have nothing to do with religion. Just assholes that shouldn’t exist.
I do agree that religion sucks and encourages awful people, but to murder your kid you have to be a deranged human to begin with.
They call it "honour killings" but it sure is a disgrace...
Anyone who can do that to their daughter on a whim, I simpy can't see as human.
Honour is just their excuse, of course - it's really just about controlling women. These weak fuckers feel their control slipping and their go-to is murder.
Im glad i live somewhere civilized and that could n-
...shit.
She probably thought it was toss up to be murdered immediately and quickly or suffer a slow death by daily anti-women injustices. She was dead anyway for simply having a brain as well as a vagina.
I'd say it was because she had both a brain and vagina at the same time. Patriarchy supporters go insane when they're forced to realize women can use their brains.
Doesn't anyone find the recent uptick in articles about Islamic fundamentalist crimes odd? There are billions of people in the world and these sorts of things happen frequently, yet they rarely receive non-local news coverage. It seems to me like the media is capitalizing on rising Islamophobia (due to the escalating conflicts in the Middle East) by releasing sensational articles about Islamic extremism, which has the effect of drumming up more Islamophobic hate. When crimes like this are committed in the US by Christians the media tends to blame mental illness.
What is this Meta media literacy? Real talk though, I bet you could find the Christian equivalent if you looked hard enough.
Recent news of Cristian parents letting a daughter die of disease
Are you daring to suggest that posts on Lemmy by certain accounts are only to manipulate public opinion. No!!!1
Yeah now that I look at it, OP is a bot that just posts toxic news. It's also not self-tagged as a bot account.
Probably prepping for a global genocide
Can we all agree that every religion is cancer
I think the issue is the very foundation of religion leads to an "us vs them" mentality.
What a fucknut
A family with a child murderer as its head is obviously more honourable than the alternative. Morons.
What a religion. God they’re poisonous.
All religions are poisonous.
Yes, all other religions are very peaceful and have never caused deaths
Maybe we should ban religions.
Must have been one of those fanatic atheists again, right? They are evil and probably worship Satan. /s
Media needs to give a new term to the concept of Pakistani "honor". Governments are afraid to touch it (esp. the UK govt.) with regard to Pakistanis in particular and Islam. Probably for fear of being victims of 'honor' killings themselves given recent history.
Exactly, Australia did this. We used to call hidden punches from the side "king hits", and now they are called "coward punches", which is far more appropriate. In the same way that Australian men who do it are absolute cowards, these family members who kill their daughters are absolute filth of humanity.
I don't know the appropriate term, but it has to be changed.
Yep, unfortunately, media have the right to be afraid following the Charlie Hebdo nonsense, here are some examples of criticisng Islam:
Now tell me again about how peaceful religions are.
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