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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nah, thats just a side effect. The primary purpose of AI is being a hype object that companies can use to inflate their stock. I like how this blogpost explained it https://pluralistic.net/2025/06/30/accounting-gaffs/

The labor market effect will be quite short lived. LLMs as a replacement to human labor will be gone before long simply because they will ruin any company, government or project that relies on them. Its a sort of natural selection.

[-] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I hope you're right.

I have doubt, but also hope.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 months ago

LLMs have a more mystical pull than other previous hypes, but look at what happened with crypto and blockchain. Every fucking government and company was saying that its the future and now nobody gives a shit about those anymore. It might be later than you and i would like, but eventually it will pass.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Or it will become foundational tech like the Internet. People said that was a fad too.

It all depends on whether or not it becomes reliable and cheap.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Idk why you are being downvoted. It is a real possiblity, but i just dont think its likely.

reliable and cheap

Because it simply wont ever be those things. LLMs become more expensive the better you try to make them, exponentially so. We will likely never see LLMs that are significantly better than what we have today. Basically all written human texts on the internet have been used for LLM training. Any further gains can only come from optimizing training algorithms and there hasnt been any real progress there for years now.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, it will take a substantial change in LLM architecture to make them viable for general use. Like you said, a couple orders of magnitude improvement in training would be the biggest help. Though I’m not sure that’s even possible.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The internet was successful because it was predictable and reliable and filled a previously unserved purpose. LLMs could possibly serve a purpose creating text that doesn't need to be correct or accurate, but it won't replace anything that requires any level of accuracy or accountability because the design is inherently flawed due to being a prediction algorithm.

There are uses for pattern matching AI that will continue to be tools used by humans to help focus efforts in massively complex work, but they won't ever be foundational replacements.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 7 months ago

Oh yeah for sure there are plenty of great uses for machine learning, i would never deny that.

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago
[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

How is what I said AI apologism? I clearly expressed concern that the technology isn’t reliable or cheap.

[-] greenskye@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago

Cloud everything, saas, and offshore workers are all still things that have been negatively affecting people for years and never really went away even if the hype died down.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

Cloud computing is slowly crumbling too. At least in germany more and more companies are going back to on prem, because there are just a bunch of studies showing that cloud stuff is more expensive, less flexible and often actually has more downtime. But unlike other stupid projects you cant just reverse the move to cloud in a few months, it will take years to unfuck everything.

[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

I think in a non market economy I would still work on language models. It's cool that a machine can hold a conversation.

[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Not entirely true. This works only for unskilled labour, meaning anyone who is not skilled in lying and cheating your way into a management positon. Or poor people.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

I'm 12 and this is deep

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The sole purpose of all tools ever created is to lower the value of human skills.

LLM's are hyped but have some value as a tool.

[-] fakir@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago

50 years ago - you won't believe how many paper pushers we'll be able to get rid of once this invention called computers takes off!

Also, man these robotic arms sure help automate our factories, but if you turn your head upside down you will see it as 'lowering the market value of human skills'.

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] Chozo@fedia.io 5 points 7 months ago

Gonna lose a lot of support when you respond to criticisms with name-calling.

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

that's the point of every technological development lately

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago
No tools in your shed—
yet you curse the rising sun
for stealing your craft.
[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

All the world’s a stage and here you are playing pretend middle management with racist pile of linear algebra. Adorable.

Here ya go. Learn how to write without getting your hand held by a synthetic text extruding machine that guzzles more water than Ai fanboys slurping corporates sloppy seconds.

[-] vane@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No it's purpose is to censor information and trap humans into bubble where the only options will be corporate locked chat or physical book. After that cut the books by lobbying for replacing public libraries with chat ( because it's cheaper ) and leave humanity with nothing. Look how they pressure education now. They want every human to speak with robot so they can control us. It's not about robot being good or wrong it's about you reading what it prints and puttng it into your brain so it melts it.

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