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[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Yarvin and Thiel scare me...

Here's some of Yarvin's writings, if you want to feel like disappearing into the woods, getting on a rocket, and blasting off as far, far away from this planet as possible:

precedent should be rolled back to 1900 at the latest, and probably more like 1800. The democratic era has corrupted everything, law being no exception.

One way to see internal security in a Patchwork realm is as a compromise between two sorts of Orwellianism. In the sense that the realm is (effectively) omniscient and omnipotent, it would fit most peoples’ definition of “Orwellian.”

Residents of a Patchwork realm have no security or privacy against the realm.

All residents, even temporary visitors, carry an ID card with RFID response. All are genotyped and iris-scanned. Public places and transportation systems track everyone. Security cameras are ubiquitous. Every car knows where it is and who is sitting in it, and tells the authorities both. Residents cannot use this data to snoop into each others’ lives, but Friscorp can use it to monitor society at an almost arbitrarily detailed level.

There is one problem, though, which is ... the problem of adults who are not productive members of society. In our little Newspeak we call them wards of the realm.

As Delegate of San Francisco, what should you do with these people? I think the answer is clear: alternative energy. Since wards are liabilities, there is no business case for retaining them in their present, ambulatory form. Therefore, the most profitable disposition for this dubious form of capital is to convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.

Okay, just kidding. This is the sort of naive Randian thinking which appeals instantly to a geek like me, but of course has nothing to do with real life. The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.

However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide.

The best humane alternative to genocide I can think of is not to liquidate the wards—either metaphorically or literally—but to virtualize them. A virtualized human is in permanent solitary confinement, waxed like a bee larva into a cell which is sealed except for emergencies. This would drive him insane, except that the cell contains an immersive virtual-reality interface which allows him to experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.6

The virtual worlds of today are already exciting enough to distract many away from their real lives. They will only get better. Nor is productive employment precluded in this scenario—for example, wards can perform manual labor through telepresence. As members of society, however, they might as well not exist. And because cells are sealed and need no guards, virtualization should be much cheaper than present-day imprisonment.

Many other regions of the earth, however, contain large numbers of human beings whose existence may well prove an unequivocal liability to the owners of any ground on which they would reside. If so, they can be virtualized, creating giant human Wachowski honeycombs of former bezonians, whose shantytowns can be cleared and redeveloped as villas for retired oil-company executives.

[-] 0x01@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Teehee just kidding about my proposal to turn humans into petroleum... unless?

What an unfortunate collection of words to read on a Friday like today

[-] kahdbrixk@feddit.org 1 points 8 months ago

Unbelievable that anyone printed this in either online or offline form of text. A humane alternative to genocide, cause no one would really like the biodiesel solution.

Good to see that democracy actually seems to be the foe for these people. Let's try and keep it that way...

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[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This dude sucks so much. And everything I've ever read about him makes him seem like the most annoying kind in philosophy class who thinks he's smart but is a dumbass. And also very racist.

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I keep running into this problem where I hear about this conservative intellectual and I go to read their work. I know I'm not going to agree with them, but let me find the flaw or where our values diverge in their argument.

When I gloss it, I'll assume the problem is me when i fail to find that spot. So I do a closer, more serious reading of their work. Still don't see it. Again. Fail. Again. Fail. Again.fsil.failfsilfisjl.

These "intellectuals" are people who haven't read widely, haven't practice developing ideas, and don't know how to write a structured argument.These fuckers were "STEM" smart from a young age, probably without much effort, got accolades from everyone about how smart they were, and thought the liberal arts were a joke. And honestly, until advanced high school classes, they often are. Because before that age, your brain lacks the skills and data to do it at all.

Their combined rhetorical strength lies in misleading statements, provocations, and hiding their true intent behind mealy mouth pseudo intellectualism. At least Yarvin will come out and say he wants feudalism. Fuck Jordan Peterson in particular. I am worse off for ever having tried to comprehend his thinking. I'm not sure who else sucks in this day and age, but I include Theil, bronze age pervert, and the CEO of Palintar. All, I believe, have advanced degrees in the liberal arts.

This isn't to say that there aren't conservatives worth reading and disagreeing with, but the surface is polluted.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I genuinely don’t understand how Peterson has a PhD. I’ve listened to his lectures and they are just pointless garbage. He squints at Jung, comes up with this manicheanism where men = order women = disorder and just verbal diarrheas from there.

I’ve only had a little formal education in psychology, but enough that people have paid me to teach it, and I don’t understand how anyone in the field could be impressed.

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[-] FrostbittenDuck@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure you won't get banned for using the hard R on Twitter anymore, so what is the actual point? I mean, even if you did, avoiding the actual word wouldn't trick anyone into thinking you mean anything but what you do.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Curtis Yarvin is an endashger.

[-] iamdisappoint@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

Em dash! AI wrote this trash... /s

[-] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 1 points 8 months ago

chat is this satire

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