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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

I feel like I would have agreed with Google had they just argued "This is our private store. We did all the work to build it. We control the rules. If you want to make the Epic Store apk, you can. Sideloading is an absolute possibility. No hacking needed."

I would agree with that.

Instead they argued by Epic charging money without giving google a slice, it compromises users safety and the innovation of the platform.

Fuck

Off.

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

But apps outside of their store (such as fdroid) get constantly pinged for malware security scans, and android treats them as second class citizens in a lot of scenarios. It's really frustrating to fight your phone on so many fronts just to use the apps you want.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 months ago

I have many, many apps installed through not-Play Store methods. Haven't really run into any issues with them. Yeah, Android gets a bit picky on initial install, but once you've gone through that process once, it becomes a no-brainer.

[-] kadup@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Haven’t really run into any issues with them

This has been changed if you're lucky enough to have a recent Android version, but not long ago any gallery app sideloaded from external sources couldn't be set as the system gallery, meaning managing pictures was really annoying because any changes required a pop up confirmation.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 4 months ago

However, the 2023 trial overseen by US District Judge James Donato revealed a pattern of scheming on Google's part to prevent the distribution of alternative app stores on Android phones. While Android devices do allow sideloading of apps, and the platform is open source, Google's scale and partnerships with OEMs made it a de facto monopoly. This led the court to impose extensive remedies that could remake the mobile app ecosystem.

in the linked article on the 2023 trial:

At the time, Google was quick to point out that the ability to sideload apps on Android meant Epic hadn't been completely barred from distributing Fortnite on the platform (as it had been on iOS). "The open Android ecosystem lets developers distribute apps through multiple app stores," Google said in 2020. "While Fortnite remains available on Android, we can no longer make it available on Play because it violates our policies. However, we welcome the opportunity to continue our discussions with Epic and bring Fortnite back to Google Play."

By April 2020, Epic had returned to the Google Play store, accusing Google of imposing a number of important limits on its sideloaded software. As the company said at the time:

Google puts software downloadable outside of Google Play at a disadvantage, through technical and business measures such as scary, repetitive security pop-ups for downloaded and updated software, restrictive manufacturer and carrier agreements and dealings, Google public relations characterizing third-party software sources as malware, and new efforts such as Google Play Protect to outright block software obtained outside the Google Play store.

[-] higgsboson@dubvee.org 6 points 4 months ago

the open Android ecosystem

They got some nerve

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 18 points 4 months ago

Guys this is huge

ID/age verification for apps is being built so only google signed and integrity verified apps can run, that would prevent any age verified apps running on non-official android OS like graphene.

This will have to change when apps are coming from any random app store and can no longer use these google attestation services

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

From the article:

developers can opt out if they don't want their apps to be available more widely

So it won't affect that.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Fuck epic, but good for indie app developers who would otherwise have to hand over blood money to apple and Google

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah, Epic is shitty, but compared to Google they're good.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

Hopefully both companies lose a load in legal fees and we get better stuff

[-] kadup@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

If Google is sad, I'm happy

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, Google became such a shitty company. Used to love them, now I'd like to see them fail.

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 3 points 4 months ago

They're still cool! They have lots of cool things they've released over the past few years! Like... Um...

Uh...

Well shit.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago

Released? Yes.

Closed down again? Also yes.

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The shit was canceled.

[-] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

So they didn't pay the bribes?

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

no doubt china will be making a similar judgement for Tencent etc.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 months ago

on what? there's a gazillion chinese android app stores already, which makes chinese android phones need a ton more ram to compensate for all the update notification etc. services clogging up the backend

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

for banned US app stores like Steam and Google Play.

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