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I wonder if it's working or not (sh.itjust.works)

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[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Steam suggests that 'Payment Processors cited Mastercard Rules'.

Itch.io suggests that Visa specifically sent them a note, but more importantly that Stripe forbids sexual content.

We need to be smarter about this. We cannot just let random Twitter and Reddit outrage memes control us.

Fortunately, Visa and MasterCard have been assholes to a large number of international folks so I'm kinda okay with this? But the controversy this past month on these sexy games is poorly researched in general IMO.

We are seeing big tech (Reddit and Twitter) flex their muscles and see how easy they can attack other companies. It's not even clear if the correct targets were chosen in this instance.

EDIT: my method of protest is to get a Discover (or AmEx if you prefer) so that we stop giving 3% of all of our commercial wealth to Visa or Mastercard. At least we can hit them in their revenue stream.

I don't believe that Discover or AmEx is big enough to seriously bully these organizations around. So there's safety in picking the distant 3rd and 4th place credit cards, just economically speaking.

There is also the fact that Discover has an alliance with JCB (Japans credit card) and RuPay (India) and UnionPay (China), meaning Discover is likely too weak to have gross international influence. (Relies upon local processors to get their card around the world).

Why? My research upon the Manga Library Z issue says that when Visa/Mastercard cut off Manga Library Z last year, both Discover and AmEx continues to support that controversial store. So that sets Visa/Mastercard as the troublesome ones, while Discover/AmEx might not have the strength to be troublesome yet.

[-] aramova@infosec.pub 17 points 3 days ago

Discover is owned by Capital One now, who are arguably on shit stain par with MC/Visa.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Could you explain?

I've heard of years of examples of Visa/Mastercard DIRECTLY going after the Japanese Doujin market. Never have I heard of anything from Capitol One.

https://boundingintocomics.com/video-games/video-game-news/nier-creator-yoko-taro-voices-concern-over-rise-in-credit-card-companies-refusing-to-handle-adult-content-if-they-have-control-of-the-clearing-house-they-can-even-use-it-to-control-speech-in-o/

This isn't a new issue at all. I'm glad that the Internet suddenly cares about it but there's so much shallow shit and bad thinking right now I'm worried that this movement dissipates before any serious change happens.

But yes, please find me an example of Capitol One being a problem. I can mostly think of Visa, Mastercard issues with maybe one or two AmEx (but much more rarely and maybe those few exceptions AmEx had a point).

This is a payment processor issue. Not a bank issue. PayPal, Stripe and such are also issues, as well as Google Pay and Apple Pay in theory.

[-] pticrix@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not to say you're wrong (I seriously have no clue), but how many people in Japan use Capital One / AmEx tho? They might not put their nose where there's no volume either. For what it's worth, AmEx is often not accepted where I live. I wonder if it is the same over there?

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Discover has an alliance with JCB, the #1 credit card of Japan. https://www.jcbusa.com/adding-jcb-card-acceptance/

And the reverse: https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/international-use/

Discover (mostly) works on JCB, and JCB (mostly) works on Discover terminals in USA.

This means that Discover is a 'guest' on Japan's credit card network. It's JCB that will have the main say of what is or isn't allowed in Japanese payments.

That's why I'm pretty sure Discover can't fuck around. They literally aren't powerful enough. JCB is the credit card power in Japan who is stronger than Discover. Even if they have Capitol One backing Discover now (and Diners Club International... And Pulse), Discover is too small to bully.

But the alliance system (JCB allowing Discover cards to work on most JCB terminals in the country) naturally allows Discover to still be used in the vast majority of Japanese transactions.

Discover has enough 'alliances' to be a card worth using. But also isn't big enough to bully like Mastercard or Visa. Maybe that changes in the future but today I think Discover is our best move at a reasonable alternative.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This meme is unfair to horror fans, sci-fi, writers, health awarenesses, 🏳️‍🌈, internet users, free pressers, even video streaming hosts.

It needs a generational Sentai hands stack.

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non exhaustive list

[-] SoupBrick@pawb.social 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Improved version by same user:

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

Porn has existing in mainstream media long before credit cards existed. I’m sure in the 1970s people were paying the the Cinemax channel or Playboy or buying magazines and VHS tapes with credit cards. Is their position that they are regressing to over 45 years in the past? Is that really their public take on this?

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