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Human Rights Watch says Israel used white phosphorus in Gaza, Lebanon (www.reuters.com)

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[-] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 107 points 1 year ago

Genocide

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[-] NightGaunts@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago

This is all around horror, we are the worst.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We, the ones who realize this is horror, are not the worst. The worst are those who use chemical weapons and feel justified in doing so. The worst are those who are comfortable murdering innocent people with methods so gruesome they were internationally banned.

Fuck Hamas for the war crimes of murdering innocent civilians. Fuck Israel for the war crimes of murdering innocent civilians, pushing people from their homes, and now using chemical weapons on par with napalm. The only prayers I give, to a god I don't serve, are to Palestine and those just trying to live peaceful lives.

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[-] aksdb@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

That last sentence pisses me off:

White phosphorus is considered an incendiary weapon under Protocol III of the Convention on the Prohibition of Use of Certain Conventional Weapons. The protocol prohibits using incendiary weapons against military targets located among civilians, although Israel has not signed it and is not bound by it.

Why the fuck do we give them any military support then? If their reason is true ("we need help to defend ourselves"), there is no reason why they couldn't sign a fucking protocol for minimizing casualties.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 13 points 1 year ago

Because we want Israel to use wp. Wp rounds in guns are the "tracer" rounds and can be used to correct long distance fire.. And with modern "smart" artillery shells you can have them hit a course correct in flight to hit a "hot spot* that a drone or operative lit up. This allows you to use artillery without having to flatten several city blocks to hit one target.

Without the use of these sorts of rounds artillery would have to fire significantly less accurate rounds. And like in the Ukraine War, Gaza would be reduced to nothing but rubble. Gaza is so small that Nort Korea has the ability to flatten it with its Artillery setup.

[-] aksdb@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Reasonable. But what I mean is: we should completely deny any military help until they vow to uphold the same military standards as we do. And with "vow" I mean "sign". In writing.

War is fucked up anyway so demanding upholding some standards isn't too much to ask in exchange for help, IMO

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[-] WuTang@lemmy.ninja 18 points 1 year ago

Human Rights are not Zionist Rights.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Wait, I thought chemical warfare was a war crime or something.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Look at Russia, it don’t matter because everything is fucked to shit right now in regards to international law

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[-] deez_ballzzz@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

JERUSALEM, Oct 13 (Reuters) - Human Rights Watch on Thursday accused Israel of using white phosphorus munitions in its military operations in Gaza and Lebanon, saying the use of such weapons puts civilians at risk of serious and long-term injury.

Israel has been bombarding Gaza in retaliation for a Hamas rampage in southern Israeli towns that killed at least 1,300 people this week.

It provided links to two videos posted on social media that it said show "155mm white phosphorus artillery projectiles being used, apparently as smokescreens, marking, or signaling".

Palestinian TV channels have broadcast video in recent days showing thin plumes of white smoke lining the sky over Gaza that they say was caused by such munitions.

Israel's military in 2013 said it was phasing out white phosphorus smokescreen munitions used during its 2008-2009 offensive in Gaza, which drew war crimes allegations from various rights groups.

White phosphorus munitions can legally be used on battlefields to make smoke screens, generate illumination, mark targets or burn bunkers and buildings.

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