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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by 11111one11111@lemmy.world to c/askscience@lemmy.world

Also, why dont off shore windmills operations build off existing unused structures like out of commission oil rig platforms? Assuming the biggest additional cost is building the same as land structure but without hundreds of feet of additional structure for new off shore windmill structures?

Edit: im admittedly uneducated on this, but read about technology like (as stated in reply below) laser deterrents or Long Range Acoustic Devices (LRAD) dont work, then strap a fucking dog whistle for birds on the blades should be in the realm of possibilities.

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[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Airplanes hit birds all the time. It's a big problem in aviation.

The best technology airports use is "not having birds near the airport".

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, we learned this from Mario games, obviously. I mean hell, turtles and dinosaurs fly right?

Hell, Mario even flies if he sticks a squirrel tail up his ass..

Where you been homie?

[-] JBar2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Birds are not something that can simply be avoided. They are far more complex than bugs, and bugs are still a problem (while they exist in substantial numbers anyways, which might then solve the bird "problem" too!).

There is nothing at airports that dissuade birds from flying except airplanes. Full stop. There is no magic pill.

... ok ok maybe there are specific deterrents at specific airports, but that does not a norm make.

Also, the kinds of birds that are going to fly by off shore wind mills are not going to be the same species as birds flocking around airports. It's not only a problem that does not have a magical solution, but a wholly separate problem to begin with.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 month ago

I love the airport antibird playbook

  • remove attractive nesting sites
  • loud noises
  • fireworks
  • dogs
  • hawks!!!!
  • owl statues

Even still, that just reduces the probability birds will hangout on the runway... Bird will fly and airplanes will hit them.

[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I apologize if my post implied both questions were about off shore windmills. The bird deterrent question was for any windmill, land or off shore.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The point is the same: Birds are not so trivial as to be deterred effectively by a single solution.

[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

That seems so unlikely tho for a stationary object lol. Like just blast EDM music super loud from the windmills and these damn birds will just fly around them hahah im sorry if I sound so ignorant.

[-] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Consider that birds often make nests inside/on top of anti-bird spikes for an idea of the challenge you are facing getting them to not be somewhere.

And that’s just to stop them shitting on walls. That’s stationary, often next to very busy roads providing noise and movement, etc.

The real problem with wind turbines is the sheer speed those blades can get going. They don’t look fast but the tips can be traveling at hundreds of mph, so a bird flying through what looks like clear airspace suddenly takes a whack from the side. Unless you are talking about keeping an entire field of turbines bird free, which nature will never allow to happen (an open niche will always attract inhabitants), it’s just not practical.

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