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Oat milk is the GOAT milk.
Another shitty grift, the American economy is at least 50% grift at this point I swear, because there's little consequence for all of this but major profits. I barely want to participate in this economy anymore it's just fucking mental.
I hate to break it to you but this isn't new.
Then downvote it and move on?
Fun fact, you cannot commit animal abuse on a soybean, coconut, rice, wheat, or oat grains.
Fuck dairy
Exactly
No fan of dairy either. But soy bean production is very problematic for animals. Especially how its farmed in south america.
Naturally, they might live to 15 to 20 years of age, but
this has never been established, it just sounds shocking.
Wtf? All bovines and ungulates live over a decade in wild habitats, you're just divorced from nature
what jersey cow has ever lived over a decade without protection from elements, protection from predators, protection from disease, feed, water, and veterinary care?
How many Jersey cows have bee n tested in these circumstances?
I don't know of any. which is what I've been saying: the claim I'm objecting to is untested.
Is it truly untested, or do you just lack that particular data?
if you have the data I'll gladly read it
Some numbers for relevance:
American bison lifespan is 10-20 years, african buffalo is 10-25, Indian water buffalo averages 25 years, and guar are around the same.
Now let's look at some heritage breeds of domestic cow:
White park cattle are not unheard of to live around 30 years, highland cattle 15-20, Dexters around the same.
Edit: I forgot the dairy cows... holstein 15-20, jersey around the same, friesian around the same.
It is in the nature of cattle to live at least into their teens. Dairy cattle are treated terribly and bred to overproduce, but they are killed when production drops. A good bull, on the other hand, can be kept around for longer, but most dairies do ai now so they dont even have to have a dangerous bull on site.
As an aside, the entire thing is similar to production hens. A production hen's system gives out early (usually due to reproductive issues or cancer) due to being designed to lay an egg a day regardless of anything else. There is a reason family farms who want pets generally avoid the high production ladies if they value health over production.
If you have a problem with selective breeding or the killing of cows I cant take you seriously.
If you can’t see the blatant unnecessary suffering of other species on our behalf I “cant [sic] take you seriously.”
this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2025
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