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At what point do we say that we're being ruled by martial law? Maybe not yet, but when?

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[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Carney is a little right wing for my liking, but I don't think anything since he's been prime minister can be considered anything close to martial law.

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 18 points 18 hours ago

In America, you mean?

The thing is, the entire military could not (visibly and competently) occupy all of America at once in a way that made everyone say "this is definitely martial law". They're too few.

But you send in the army here and there, spread some "martial law vibes", crush some dissent, put up big flashy banners everywhere, tell cops that they've "been unleashed" and have ICE run riot? Hold some shitty military parades... It amounts to the same thing.

It's a very Trumpian "all sizzle and no steak" type of martial law, but you're there.

[-] Quexotic@beehaw.org 4 points 9 hours ago

That's kinda why I asked, and you remind me of a good point. They can cow us into submission, but they can't be everywhere all the time. We are legion. I wonder how we get people to act as such.

[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

We are legion.

Snort. Give me a break. Americans are weak, placid, cowards. They're going to sit back and take it.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

I wonder how we get people to act as such.

America couldn't even get enough people to do the bare minimum (voting) to prevent the current shitshow.

It's a country full of peoole who like to talk a big game, but when it comes down to taking meaningful action, everyone suddenly remembers something else they'd rather be doing and nothing actually gets fixed.

 

I would love to be proven wrong on that point, but I don't expect to be.

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You've got me pegged. My family has been American for only one generation. We saw this all coming, decided to up stakes and head back to where we're from. I love the ideal of America, but it never really existed if we're being honest.

The problem wasn't the mix of cultures, the unwarranted optimism, or even the questionable-as-fuck founding fathers. It was the slavery that never ended, the stolen land never repaid, and the uncontrolled concentration of capital that convinced me to give it all up. It's a whole nation built on theft, and the very least I could do is steal myself and my family back from it all.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

What? you mean a nation founded on rights only for rich white males and that entrenched slavery into their constitution isn't a great place to be? Kinda crazy.

Kinda crazy it took this long to boil over.

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 9 hours ago

Organise with local resistance. Get serious.

[-] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 8 points 18 hours ago

And, for me, the quote of the century 'all sizzle no steak" sums it up very nicely.

It's like the most mediocre American way of self destruction.

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