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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world

Recent reports have announced that Crunchyroll, the largest anime streaming service, will be replacing Aegisub with Israeli Software, OOONA, to produce subtitles more efficiently. Anime fans across the world are disappointed with this collaboration due to Israel’s ongoing genocide against Palestinians (via a report by the United Nations Commission of Inquiry).

Crunchyroll is also ignoring the needs of groups who require Closed Captions to understand the scenes better. They are isolating a large chunk of their audience in favor of AI-based subtitling, which defeats the point of a streaming service. Overall, this hasn’t been a great year for Crunchyroll, and this won’t be the end of it.

EDIT: Link was taken down thanks to someone in the comments here's the archive for the page https://web.archive.org/web/20251004184506/https://fandomwire.com/crunchyroll-faces-cancelation-why-anime-fans-are-choosing-piracy-after-latest-update/

https://bsky.app/profile/lamhfada.bsky.social/post/3m2c3udxnjc2u

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[-] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The whole “calling out Israel for genocide means you’re antisemitic” line is so worn out and honestly just exhausting. Israel has spent like 4+ decades trying desperately to associate criticism of israel with antisemitism.

I’ve been boycotting Crunchyroll for years, and I’m not stopping anytime soon.

"Piracy is a human right, collective ownership of the seas, comrades!" — Erik L. Midtsveen

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[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 months ago

Animelab died for this

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago

Fansubs have always been superior.

[-] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Remembers all the fan sub opening/ending Karaoke so I could actually understand songs too. 🥹

[-] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Steins Gate fansubs were amazing.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

That‘s how Crunchyroll itself started out if I remember correctly. Now look at it, completely unrecognizable. It‘s exemplary for how things have been progressing or rather regressing this century so far.

[-] exu@feditown.com 2 points 2 months ago

There are barely any real fansubs left. Most are Crunchyroll, Netflix or Funimation restyled and maybe retimed plus checked if they spent a lot of time on it.

[-] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 2 months ago

I'm an old pirate who remembers, and the thing, the raw ingredient missing in this scenario?

need

If it didn't exist, if there was no possible way to get a copy of somesuch Gundam episode whatever in english, some dude somewhere would cross the ends of the earth to get it onto the internet. Piracy is motivated entirely by utility and need, it's why music piracy atrophied into almost nothing until Soulseek arrived and streaming prices increased. Supply met demand, and it will again for fansubs.

If it's needed, someone will meet the need. We did it in 1998, we'll do it next year.

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[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago

I would very much like a streaming service that makes it transparent what it actually spends its income on.

Like - a streaming service where i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the studios/artists that actually produce the anime? I would take that.

But right now i'm worried that i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the shareholders of the streaming provider as "profit" while the studio gets almost nothing.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah... sweet summer child you might not want to read Chokepoint Capitalism. It's closer to 99% for BigContent lawyers and right holders and less than 1% for actual creators.

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[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

All the streaming services are unethical now, both in pricing and operation. Netflix is maybe the least bad, but I can’t justify the cost for that, either.

Stremio + Torrentio is the way to go.

What happens next is like what happened in the 2000s. People will turn to piracy as legitimate content is no longer feasible, affordable, or ethical. Then the corporate oligarchs will crack down violently to make examples of the people they’ve given no other choice or recourse.

It’s time to eat the rich.

[-] BlackAura@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Netflix charges me, a single guy, for 4 simultaneous streams if I want 4k. So I shared with my parents.

Then they had the audacity to stop people from password sharing or to charge even more if you want to share. I set up an automatic email forward so my parents get every sign in related email.

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[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

And the Spotify ceo just stepped down so he could focus on weapons systems for Israel. The people running all of our media services are Nazis.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Fascism is the natural end stage of capitalism. Plenty of businesses that have no core connection and competency with the military are embedding themselves into the military. For now, most of the US top brass loathe the Trump administration, but eventually they will be replaced by loyalists. We might get a real life Enclave if something isn't done to rid the fascists.

[-] BilSabab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

why not just pirate shit without a noble cause for once? You know - the old fashioned way

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 2 months ago

Impossible.

Piracy is always noble.

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[-] vateso5074@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Don't forget that Crunchyroll is also owned by Sony, who have basically picked up a monopoly on anime streaming services by buying out all of the competition. Aniplex, Funimation, Crunchyroll, Kadokawa, all under the Sony umbrella.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

And still can't offer the full catalog in my country

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

When property is valued over people, piracy is protest. Pirating undermines a system that guards profit while neglecting humanity. Every download is a refusal to accept laws that protect wealth over well-being.

[-] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Corporations can't stand it a logarithmic graph. They need freaking geometric progressions, and then they do stuff that gets them an anti-logarithmic graph.

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago
[-] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

I'm doing my part!

My renewal was literally tomorrow too. As these streaming services get worse, I keep on cancelling. Been two years for Prime (literally smashed cancel the day ads were announced) and all i've got left at this point is netflix and spotify.

Netflix pricing almost has me there.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Greed kills

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

Funnily enough, i was considering just today whether i should re-open my old Crunchyroll account. But i guess i won't do it now after all. IIRC there's been a streak of bad press about crunchyroll; like, this today isn't the only issue.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago
[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I bailed on CR when they fired their US based IT people and outsourced to the cheapest Eastern Euro country. It wasn't even a purely moral decision. The website was janky in the first place and I knew it wasn't going to get batter at that point.

[-] corvalanlara@eviltoast.org 3 points 2 months ago

So non-Americans can’t do a good job, amirite?

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I didn't get that vibe from the parent comment. the reaction was to the motivations of the rich fatcats who aren't happy with the obscene wealth they already have. Not American Exceptionalism.

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[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Enshittification, everyone. It comes to everything.

[-] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Ha fuck… that was my last personal sub… any alternative beside the high seas? I’m seasick…

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[-] lightnegative@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Ahh good ol' Aegisub. I have great memories of subtitling anime in my late teens before I got a girlfriend and the fansub scene died when Crunchyroll took over.

I was also one of the people helping test Aegisub on Linux (2009-ish), I wasn't a programmer at the time but I remember a dude called 'verm' in the IRC channel who did a bunch of work to make Aegisub stable on Linux. He taught me the difference between little endian and big endian, I guess he was bored that day

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Lol. Crunchy roll was always crap. Watching anime in the raw is torture.

[-] arararagi@ani.social 3 points 2 months ago

As far as I know we don't even have fansubs anymore, any group nowadays is just a rip of whatever streaming has the anime, current anime if it's not picked up by any streaming will get no subs, the streaming giants were successful and embracing it and enshitifying.

[-] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Oh, didn't realize this. Had a rolling sub which I never bothered to cancel as I very occasionally watch with mates, but have now cancelled it.

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[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The problem here is that all these major anime providers are owned by Sony, so you're kinda fucked if you want to boycott them.

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