Both things can be true.
One step at a time.

damn right. in the US, performing labor is seen as more important than human life. that tells you a lot.

Liberals watching fascism evolve in real time: "Fuck your guns! Give them over!"

Leftists: "Uh, hell no, are you crazy?"

Liberals: "You'll get KILLED!"

Leftists: "Yeah, that's going to be the outcome whether you fight or not."

Liberals: "Where my 2A people at?!" (got a burn in there. tee hee hee)

Me: "I have loads of guns, practice best I know how, several times a week. Tell me what you would have me do."

Liberals: <FUCKING SILENCE>

Never heard a single word, not one reply to that question. Here's your chance to shine!

I haven't seen masked men in my town. None have come for my brown, legal, immigrant wife. As of this year, I am not outdoors unarmed. Indoors? You can't catch me shitting without a firearm in reach. Insane? Abso-fucking-lutly insane. No one should live like that. But this is where we're at in America.

Want to hear something nuts? I was just now showing my wife that I can buy all the gear these fascists are wearing on Amazon.com. Yes, POLICE patches, all of it.

So, to sum, they've demonstrated that they'll kill me. They've demonstrated that anyone can look like them. You go figure out how to take that information.

Ban for "inciting violence" in 3, 2...

This is a bit like responding "All lives matter" when hearing about Black Lives Matter.

More and more I'm convinced most Americans have no idea what a liberal, leftist, or other terms actually are. They're just parroting the words they hear from their feeds.

'Liberal' is the funniest because both red and blue accuse each other of being them. My guess is blues think liberalism is laissez-faire and the reds think it's woke social freedoms. They're both slightly on the right track, but not at all.

And in the rest of the free world...

Liberals: No one should live in poverty regardless of their ability to perform labour.

Leftists: Yoooo, 40 hrs is fucked. What is this, the 1300s?

Liberals: Actually, yeah that is kind of fucked. An employer shouldn't be ble to encroach on an employee's life that much. This is an imbalance of liberties.

Leftist: Great! So what are we going to do bout it?

Liberals: Fuck all. We can't be sure employees don't want this too. Besides, someone will sort it out soon, they always do.

Leftists: I'll donate a union $5 so I can tell my friend I'm left.

And in the next five years, some prolific young gun politician swoops in the 35 hour work week. But due to cultural reasons, everyone keeps working 40 hours and gets plenty of overtime for it. This having the employer pay more and the employee see little benefit because the state haven't adjusted their now dated tax brackets. But along with very good minimum wage standards and an unemployment rate < 5%, both the leftist and the liberal never found the true source of the poverty and so continued using foreign corporations and large franchise to fulfill almost all of their needs. And everyone but their local infrastructures and communities lived happily ever after until the next global recession hit. The leftist and liberal "really meant it this time" when they said they'd support local and try to live more independently, but the inconvenience of it meant they silently did not.

This misses the point. The point is no one, especially someone who has given back to society by preforming labor, should be left out in the cold.

I’m “collectivize the farms and factories” left, and even I recognize that it’s a hell of a lot easier to get to the second state from the first state than from where we are now.

I feel like you hear the top line because those specific liberals are trying to convince independents, moderates, conservatives, and people on the right to agree on at least something. Many of the people they’re trying to convince would give a big “NO” if they didn’t include that 40 hours part.

The fact that there isn’t even a “YES” with the 40 hours part caveat is the bad sign.

I don’t think most of the people labeled as liberals would disagree with what the people labeled leftist are saying, but their trying to convince the other people that aren’t even bought in to the first step.

This is also an issue where the people that don’t want to help others have over 50% of the power in the US federal government currently.

Our energy should be focused on bringing these progressive help options to everyone at the state level right now to have the greatest chance of getting these programs implemented.

Progressive purity tests help the billionaires and right more than they help us make progress toward a future were common people aren’t treated like trash.