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The video is out on YouTube now.
It's "lazy" not to want to ride in the rain, hot and cold weather?
Just because some people are okay with it doesn't mean everyone is. People die in hot and cold weather where I live.
Nobody dies in cars
I mean touché but the point is it's extremely uncomfortable, on a daily basis, for several hours/day. And you arrive at work sopping wet from sweat or rain or both and stinking to high hell.
Sorry, bikes are cool. I like the idea of microcars better. But really I like the idea of 25MPH speed limits even better. Drive whatever you want, just do it slowly and safely, and while polluting so much less.
I used to live somewhere where driving was mandatory for commuting anywhere. I was a huge car guy, had a nice car and enjoyed driving. The day I moved to a city where public transport and walking gets me everywhere I need to go I haven't driven since. notably the weather is much worse where I live now; hasn't made an impact at all. You don't know how bad it is and how good it can be until you've experienced it. Cars are a drain, they embody convenience but they achieve the opposite.
notably the weather is much worse where I live now; hasn't made an impact at all.
How could that possibly be true? Getting dumped on with rain has no impact ? Freezing your balls off has no impact ? Overheating to the point of near-death has no impact ? You're just lying.
You don't know how bad it is and how good it can be until you've experienced it.
I experience it all the time. Mostly recreationally. It fuckin sucks. Especially the heat and the humidity (often from rain or post-rain).
Yeah it doesn't, just dress for the occasion. Can always catch a tram instead of walking too.
If you're living in a car dependent city you're not experiencing what it's like to live somewhere that isn't. It has nothing to do with taking a recreational walk. Everything I want to go to is within walking distance. It's designed to be accessible year round.
When a city is designed to be habitable for people instead of traversable by cars these problems you're scared of don't exist. You don't have to take my word for it either. If you think I'm lying to you for some reason have a look at the statistics. Commuting data is easily accessible for specific cities, same as weather data. Do people who live in places that are walkable, have good public transport or have good cycling infrastructure drive? No they don't. It's not because they're stupid. It's because driving is the inferior mode of commuting when other options exist.
Yeah it doesn’t, just dress for the occasion.
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"dressing for the occasion" is an impact in itself.
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If you dress for rain and it's hot, you're gonna have a really bad time. There's no way to keep air flowing in and water out.
When a city is designed to be habitable for people instead of traversable by cars these problems you’re scared of don’t exist.
These problems have absolutely nothing to do with transit. They have to do with weather. No amount of "habitable city" is going to turn down/up the temperature or make it stop raining.
If you think I’m lying to you for some reason have a look at the statistics.
What kind of statistics do you think are going to disprove the fucking weather? Or my lived experiences sweating my fucking balls off?
Okay there's a lot here. I guess I'll start with the raincoat thing. I've got two that are perfectly comfortable to wear in the summer. They are incredibly lightweight and can be unzipped for more airflow. In winter the key is to wear a jumper underneath.
What I'm trying to show you isn't that the weather doesn't exist, it's that it doesn't matter. The city I live in I don't have to spend more than 5 mins under sunlight or rain for each hour of commuting. The sidewalks are covered, and the tram stations have shelters. The only time I'll be in direct sunlight or rain is while I'm having to cross a road. This is a direct way in which city design alters the impact the weather has on me. Not by changing the weather but by shielding people from it.
Another thing is that car dependent infrastructure, such as roads and parking lots, are massive heat sinks that absorb massive amounts of solar energy and continuously radiate it as thermal energy. In this way car dependent city design actually does change the weather and make cities hotter.
Going back to the city I live in, all of my commutes are sub 30 minutes. Dentist, hospital, work, university, general store, hardware store; you name it, I can get there. This means that any weather related impacts are severely reduced by merit of not actually being outside all that often. Even during a 30min commute that will be time spent in an enclosed air conditioned space such as a tram or train. Using the ratio from earlier I'm realistically only gonna have to put up with 150 seconds of rain on the worst of days. This is because of the way my city is designed, it directly affects my weather exposure.
The statistical analysis I'm referring to is looking at a city with bad weather such as Oslo which the video referred to. Confirming for yourself what the weather is like there, cold and often snowy. And then checking with commuter statistics to see that yes despite the conditions, it doesn't stop people from commuting on public transport, bicycle or just their feet.
I'm not lying to you. I'm not trying to deceive you. I'm just saying that as someone who lives in a walkable city, I don't get rained on and I don't sweat my balls off. This stands in direct contrast to what you've said your experience is. I'm trying to show you that the reason for this is because you live in a city that isn't designed to be walkable, while I do. The weather doesn't matter, your city just isn't designed to handle it. This is the fault of car centric urban planning.
I’ve got two that are perfectly comfortable
None of them are "perfectly comfortable" when it's >100*F outside with 90% humidity. I don't understand why you completely glossed over this part of the comment except to strawman.
The city I live in I don’t have to spend more than 5 mins under sunlight or rain for each hour of commuting
I've never seen that anywhere.
car dependent infrastructure, such as roads and parking lots, are massive heat sinks that absorb massive amounts of solar energy and continuously radiate it as thermal energy
I am aware of the urban heat island effect. It's still very fucking hot and uncomfortable riding MTB on dirt. And that's completely ignoring the idea of just, removing all of the pavement from the city?
The statistical analysis I’m referring to is looking at a city with bad weather such as Oslo which the video referred to. Confirming for yourself what the weather is like there, cold and often snowy. And then checking with commuter statistics to see that yes despite the conditions, it doesn’t affect how people commute.
This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm talking about. Showing images of people riding bikes and then going "see, no one cares about the weather!" is completely proposterous, and, dare I say, lazy. Because there are actually people in those same videos in their cars. And certainly many of them would prefer to not be outside, given the option.
I would love to see statistics that show that no one cares about how cold it is when they're outside. Because that makes absolutely no sense. People in my area already complain about the cold when commuting in their cars. Even if it did, it completely ignores hot and humid/rainy.
I’m not lying to you...the weather doesn’t matter, your city just isn’t designed to handle it
I don't believe you. You've yet to explain how the city can be designed to protect you from hot or cold.
All of your points are just "I have never experienced this and I can't imagine things being like this." I literally talked about how cities such as mine are built with shade and weather sheltering in mind. You don't believe that I have a raincoat that works in 40C weather. You seem convinced that videos of people driving and cycling in the same video debunks people cycling in the rain. I don't really know where else to go from here. You've kind of indisputably proved me more right than I ever expected to be when I said "you don't know how bad it is and how good it can be until you've experienced it."
No, all of my points are "I experience this on a regular basis and you are lying". All of your points are strawmanning about how raincoats repel water while ignoring that they're hot as fuck, and how videos of a handful of people riding bikes in the rain in a city with limited car infrastructure disproves that it's uncomfortable, and you continually ignore mind-numbingly obvious evidence to the contrary.
Shade doesn't immediately make it not >100F with 90%+ humidity. Removing pavement doesn't remove all of the heat either, not to mention it turns the ground to mush at the first sign of precipitation. Everyone does not sweat the same. A coat doesn't suddenly make it warm and cozy when it's 17F outside. Having to plan your day and your clothing around the weather is going to impact your life. Only being outside for a half an hour doesn't suddenly mean you're immune to being impacted by the weather.
There is nowhere to go from here, because you're obviously not interested in an honest discussion or you would actually engage with my points instead of just repeating the same nonsense over and over.
I'm not lying, I'm describing my life to you. I believe you when you say your car centric city is miserable to walk around in. Why don't you believe me when I say my walkable city is walkable?
Paywalled...
Yes...it's Nebula... The streaming platform co-owned by Jason which he uploads his videos to before they make it to YouTube.
Understood.
Please just make that clearer in the description next time to perhaps spare people, who don't know these facts and have never head about Jason or Nebula before, unnecessary clicks.
We're in the Not Just Bikes community. It's reasonable to assume people here are familiar with Not Just Bikes, or are at least willing to get themselves caught up.
This may turn up on peoples' front page. Adding this information isn't a huge effort.
Well, I tried my best. Read the community info and all.
It contains strict policies against spamming and also low-effort posts.
And a post only consisting of just a link to a paid website would be considered both, meaning low-effort spam, by most people.
So please excuse my confusion. I think it should be understandable.
Your confusion is reasonable. Coming in and whinging about it when you yourself knew you didn't know the context is not reasonable.
It's reasonable to assume people here are familiar with Not Just Bikes
You know, there are feeds which just show popular posts. Most of the communities in this feed people would be unfamiliar with if they browsed all/popular.
Hi! Here because this is somewhat popular.
Immediately turned off when the main point of the post is paywalled.
Would love to see this, but all it’s done is make me blacklist your sub-whatever.
Bye!
You should have replied to OP, but yeah, I agree
Sure, but most people don't come into a community they're unfamiliar with and start whinging about posts that are direct links to something created by the subject the community is dedicated to.
Saying a video is paywalled isn't whinging, but hey, you do you
Maybe, but "next time make it clear so I don't waste unnecessary time clicking links" certainly is.
subject the community is dedicated to
Following the title of the community and its description, I (and apparently other people as well) got the distinct impression this subject to be "alternative urban mobility".
I now understand that it is a fan-community for some bike-influencer instead?
This came as somewhat of a surprise, as there are no obvious indications for it.
And, btw, the gatekeeping didn't help.
What gatekeeping? All I'm saying is people shouldn't come to a Not Just Bikes community and complain about links to a platform co-owned by Not Just Bikes. That's the equivalent of going to !politics and complaining about a link to political news.
Not Just Bikes is the name of a YouTube channel run by Jason Slaughter, focused on good urbanism. It takes its name from the thesis: "what makes cities in the Netherlands so much better than most of the rest of the developed world (but especially Canada and America)? It's not just bikes." In essence, it's about urbanism in all forms. Bikes, yes, but also public transport, density, land use, etc.
Thanks.
The second part is finally a very good example for a reply that is not gatekeeping but actually helpful.
Would perhaps be a good idea to have that exact paragraph be put at the top of the community description.
And regarding the first part:
If stumbling across a post linking to inaccessible content in any community:
Instant reaction will always be leaving a "Paywalled" or similar comment.
That's just basic netiquette to inform other users and give the OP a hint that he might want to do something about it.
I keep forgetting that Lemmy has communities rather than just one big feed. Every time I’ve found a community I liked, it turned out the post that drew me to it was the only one there for the next several months.
Their videos always drop on Nebula first. It will be available on YouTube later (and probably posted here again at that time).
This is just my opinion, but with Google's increasing hostility with regards to YT, they should also start mirroring to PeerTube in case Google restricts their YT channel, plus they already got a Lemmy instance, PeerTube would be a next logical step.
Of course whether they take up on this or not is entirely their decision, but it's still a good idea for the longevity of their platform.
plus they already got a Lemmy instance
Slaughter is on Mastodon, but to my knowledge not on Lemmy. His profile also specifically says he won't create a PeerTube.
No, I am not going to bridge to Bluesky, and I am not going to create a PeerTube channel. Please stop asking.
I don't know if you can search his history to see if he's ever explained why that is.
Interestingly, Canadian urbanists Shifter and Oh the Urbanity have got PeerTube channels, on the urbanists.video instance. Though I believe the channels are run by someone else on their behalf.
Nebula is their solution. It sucks that it's paywalled just like any other streaming service but they got more economics degree holders amongst them than me so they probably knew better how to run that business. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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