When was the last time the Democrats held 50+ percent in both houses to pass legislation without needing to cooperate? Believe it was Obama for 2 months in 2009. So all complaining about this for the last decade has been moot.
We had exactly 60 seats for all of like two effective weeks in 2009, due to various issues. And not only that, a good portion of the dems in that coalition were blue dogs - senators from IA, ND, IN, and MO.
People acting like we've had 30+ Bernies in the caucus are weird.
It seems like that’s exactly the point, progressive democrats are very few and not even that progressive except for a few outliers.
I agree, that's why we need to replace around 70% of them, maybe 80%
Most of the people complaining loudly about this were toddlers last time it happened.
Hell I was born in 89' and just made the cut off for voting in the 2008 by a year. Had no say in the Bush era
60% for Obama, which is what was needed to overcome the filibuster, an utterly broken part of Senate procedure.
We had 50+VP for the first two Biden years, but that gave us no room to negotiate with our own party - or 'our own' party, considering that two of the most troublesome fuckwits later became independents when they decided they'd done all the damage they could inside the party. Add to Biden himself being not much more than a milquetoast moderate twat, and you have a recipe for very little getting done.
Not nothing. But not nearly what needed to be done, realistically speaking.
Why is that 60+ not a requirement for Republicans to pass the legislation and ratify nominations that they want? The Republicans haven't met that threshold since the 67th Congress back in 1921.
The 119th, 115th, 108th and 109th congresses which were all Republican trifectas didn't meet that criteria and the "tea party" and "establishment" flavors certainly aren't any more of a unified front than the democratic party.
I assume you mean 60+ to break filibuster.
And weren't a lot of them solid conservatives too (not like Manchin, further right)? Hence why pro-choice laws were never solidified.
Even if we ever get that again, people will be sorely disappointed because legislation will be too busy fixing damages from the previous administration to make much actual progress. Which will be forgotten by the next election (same as it ever was).
In 2048 Reagan's ghost will still haunt the country, plus Trump's ghost too.
Show up to the fucking primaries and help progressives put fucking progressives in Dem seats. Otherwise these neoliberal ghouls will keep warming the fucking seats, though that's assuming the current fascist regime is too busy tripping over its own distended asshole to successfully implement the one-party state it so desperately desires.
Bernie got 25% of the vote in the 2020 primaries. We fucking need people out here.
If those fools (the current batch of demos) ever regain power i do not EVER want to hear the word partisan again. I want NOTHING to ever go the republikkkans' way ever again. They've proven who they are. Fucking Nazis.
(/progressive)
The dems are entirely lame while in office.
That's still LEAGUES better than the genocidal fascists of the GOP.
Maybe if you want progressive reforms, stop bitching and vote for progressives in the primaries. Not that it'll matter now since millions let the fascists win so we won't have any elections any more.
The dems dropped the ball in the 2024 election, by pretending Biden was sharp as a tack and gaslighting us about his mental health until they couldn't hide it anymore during that disastrous debate, and since they lied about him so long, they replaced him with someone who flopped HARD in 2020 and lost the election in 2024.
I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries and watched as the DNC did everything they could to destroy him and install a good little establishment guy like Biden.
When Trump's a psychopath and the opposition keeps gaslighting us about the mental health of the president so long that they have no choice but to hand pick a replacement because it's too late for a primary, a lot of people are just going to say "fuck it" and not vote.
They're still being delusional and refusing to face facts. Hopefully they can learn from this.
And the dems aren't genocidal? Give me a break. People forget the genocide started and was aided by Biden. Before him people forget that all presidents (including Obama) had the same foreign policy of bombing brown people.
You guys need a multiparty system.
And you need to weaken your federal government.
And you need to stop worshipping a bunch of 18th century slave owners.
Basically, the American political system is ridiculous.
We need ranked choice voting and compulsory voting. The people who could add their votes and make a difference don't vote because "one vote doesn't make a difference". We make voting compulsory and you're gonna see a lot of people that can't afford the fine for not voting turn out
THE TRUTH is there so much voter suppression and rigging voting machines going on many places dont get much representation. aside from gerrymandering. this discourages voters, and thats what gop wants.
Get a progressive to win a primary and Democrats are working with Republicans to defeat them.
What if, for every day the government is shut down, all elected members of congress, the senate, and maybe even the executive get 2 months taken off their term.
That way, they either get it figured out somewhat fast or we have a special election and elect people who can. Tired of these incompetent people getting away with being bad at their jobs. No other industry allows that - even food service workers can get felonies for mishandling food. That affects like, a few people at most. They are affecting MILLIONS
Meanwhile, progressives/third party candidates are essentially a vapor three years of every four. Then they show up from out of nowhere, begging for votes while touting an unproven political track record and next to zero clout to back up anything they promise.
Yeah. I can see why it seems only people below voting age seem to like them. Everyone else sees through the bullshit.
Now, bring on the whatabouts!
The illusion of choice...
You have a choice. Park and reverse.
Under the Biden administration the Democrats had exactly 50 votes of 100 in the Senate if you factored in some very conservative Democrats who held everything up. If you don't want compromise you do need to vote in enough Dems to avoid Joe Manchin being able to hold everything up.
Y'all need to stop voting in paralyzed governments and then complaining they compromise and don't do anything.
Edit: This was not a fillibuster issue as they were always struggling to get 51 votes. And no, primarying Manchin was not the solution as the replacement would have just lost to a Republican who would have voted for Mitch McConnell as senate majority leader. Holding the Senate in a useful manner requires some margin.
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