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[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

Ten years ago I'm not sure I'd have said this, but now: fuck it. We should just get into bed with China. They seem totally uninterested in wars at all unless you're Taiwan, which we're not. Trade matters. They seem stable. Sure there are some human rights issues but given all the human rights issues fucking everywhere right now, like. I dunno. I'm for it.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't even think China is interested in any wars over Taiwan. I'm fairly certain it will be a peaceful rejoining once the US crumbles, akin to East and West Germany during the fall of the Soviet Union.

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[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago

If Chinese manufactures can exceed Canadian standards, provide spare parts for a minimum of 10 years from the date of manufacture, provide a minimum of 10 years of software support/updates, AND allow all software to be audited for both safe function and security. Then sure. Bring on the cheap EVs.

(But not even our current domestically produced vehicles meet those requirements)

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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

There is/should be a lot of room for compromise.

A mix of "reasonable" tariffs and quotas to start, to make Chinese EVs competitive without destroying domestic manufacturing is a good path. Canada needs investment. Whether foreign auto makers do it, following through on previous commitments, shutting out China can be a reward for them.

Without choosing to provide value cars to Canadians, Canada could offer agriculture for Chinese (solar) energy trade. Pemitting them to boost capacity even more.

Instead of begging the US to buy (and own through investment) our resources, Chinese development would help significantly as well.

Corrupt ideology programmed into Canadians is bad for Canada. We need new friends instead of abusers, and the only reform of an abuser possible comes when they beg for forgiveness when you flirt with new friends.

[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We don't even need to be "friends" with China, we just need to recognize the situation we're in and work with them pragmatically. Rejecting China in the current economy is like rejecting gravity.

[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago

I say we do this. The ONLY reason Canada put tariffs on Chinese EVs is because of the US - back when the US was our friend. Those days are well over.

From what I understand, Chinese EVs out perform the US ones (charge quicker with longer range) and are way cheaper.

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[-] Kyle@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago

With Canada so obsessed with keeping vehicle manufacturing jobs to the detriment of every Canadian not wanting to buy American cars. Why does Canada drop the Chinese tarrifs but demand certain assembly and manufacturing of Chinese vehicles happen in Canada?

Sounds like a win win, but they are too stuck on the idea they should only manufacture cars from incumbent companies that are stuck in the past. Canada has significant geological resources like lithium and rare earth metals is an even better reason to be excited about EV production in Canada.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago

Sounds like an easy decision; we sell our rapeseed and get non-American cars.

[-] rdca@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Canada needs to diversify the trade to rely less on the USA. The current gov has a huge problem on their hands but also opportunities to do something new!

When it comes to the EV tariffs I see opportunities for Canada, we have factories, some of the raw materials, Human Resources, experienceand logistics in place for the automotive industry! The Ev industry needs more than the cars there is a new ecosystem that can be worked with Chinese companies by doing knowledge transfer, manufacture autos + parts by bringing the suppliers as well. EVs need batteries and the charging network, we can bring these items to the trade talks.

China al has the largest high-speed rail network and why not expand the deals to help Canada build our high-speed rail Network?

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