Is this post serious or just making shit up? Ive never heard anyone claim that 10 minutes late is on time. Late and on time are mutually exclusive words. Whether your work punishes it or not is a different question, im permitted to be 5 minutes late and it counts as on time for example.

This seems more like a post designed to piss people off and make them fight over a position noone had before reading it.

Depending on the work, I disagree.

I work on a hangar deck supervising aircraft maintenance. At each shift change, all toolboxes are inventoried and all tools are accounted for. If people regularly show up late, either the few who do show up on time are always responsible for doing the tool inventories (or any other shift change items) or the previous shift ends up having to stay later, which is just disrespectful to them and their time.

Where my wife works, the clinic opens at 8 and the shift starts at 8 for all but the opener, so if her coworkers don't show up at 8, she's having to manage the patients by herself. On occasion for special circumstances, that's understandable. But as a general "meh, 10 minutes late is just as good," definitely not.

Basically, if tasks are expected to be done specifically at the beginning of your shift, being late is unacceptable.

I've always told my daughter to never show up on time because it sets a bad precedent. No one cars if the person whose always late is late. Everyone freaks if the person whose always on time is late.

I was manager at my last job. My shift of guys ran well without me needing to hand hold them. They knew I would be in within a 30 min window. I was there for more than 8 hours and available by email or text about 18 hours a day 6 days a week so me showing up at 1130pm or 12:05am didn't matter much.

I don't think I've been on time to work a day in my life. I am an elder millennial.

the last 5 jobs I spend the first half an hour fucking around making coffee and stuff

Bosses seem to think being on time means being 15 minutes early.

Thoses bosses can go right to hell. You want me working 15 minutes early, you better begin paying me 15 minutes early. I'm not your friend. We have a transaction going between us; I provide specific work between a specific period of time, and you give me money.

If you count your workers minutes, you should be doing something different.

Employer here (yes, I know right?! Sigh). Being on time and punctuality is about respect of other people time not about suppressing workers freedoms. We have no time to arrive for anyone. You can use the office if you like or work remotely from wherever you chose. But being late for a meeting with anyone relayed to the firm (customer or coworker including me) has to stay a seldom occurrence. Having multiple people wait for you 10 min is a pain point for everybody involved. It happens, I get it, but it everybody does not keep it to once in a long while everybody waits at every meeting which is not respectful of their time and its wasting quite some money too (Yes my people earn well above average). Is it too much to ask some basic respectful handling of each other?

BTW: there are employees that can't handle that much autonomy yet. They specifically ask me to check their working hours and be at the office present for them to help them get their hours in and help with technical problems. But that's usually new staff which has not learned to keep a routine. With time they usually get it together sooner or later. Surprisingly most make use of the office pretty regularly and just don't come in if they travel to visit family or need to be at home for family reasons. Its a win all around as far as i am concerned.

I show up up to an hour late every day because I usually work an extra 3-4 hours in the evening.