These shitheads. They only had to do nothing, and they managed to fail at it.
After reading more about the deal, it's actually starting to look pretty smart.
They're only funding the government until January.
So all the stuff where the Republicans have to bring votes by December isn't a punt, because the Dems are keeping a loaded gun on the table. If the GOP fail to uphold their side of the deal, they can just shut the government down again, right away, with a clear and obvious justification.
The reality is, actually getting these ACA subsidies extended was never likely to happen. It has to go through a GOP controlled house, and Trump. But by holding out for an agreement to actually put it to a vote, the Dems have put the issue squarely on the GOP. They're gonna force them to either shoot down their package in the Senate, shoot it down in the House, or have Trump veto it. It'll fail in one of those ways, mark my words, not it'll fail in a way that is very obviously the GOP choosing not to stand up for regular Americans. And by extending the issue with the shutdown there's been enough time for people to start seeing the 2026 rates and really getting a picture of how this is going to hurt.
I think this is a solid win. The subsidies were always doomed, and I don't think actually extending them was ever the objective. I think the point was to force the GOP to kill them in a very public and obvious way where its clear who is holding the knife. This deal achieves that.
Edit: Strike the above. After understanding some more of the details, it's not looking nearly as smart as I'd first assumed. Leaving the original up to not ruin the continuity of the thread.
Selling today for tomorrow erases all the pain that was suffered for a promise to do the same tomorrow. Neither party is in our favor. Burn it to the ground.
Another video game general.
Think SNAP payments will go through if we 'burn it to the ground?'
Think the nuclear submarines will just vanish?
You know... if I was a Russian disinfo gremlin desperate for something to pivot to after the whole "The name is Mamdani" spanking they just got I'd probably also be trying to amplify the whole "The Dems are cowards" messaging. Problem is that, thanks to years of their machinations, more people are actually checking sources and reading details now. Good.
Some of us have been watching for longer than that even.
Schumer voted against the deal. Place blame where it belongs:
John Fetterman
Catherine Masto
Jacky Rosen
Angus King
Maggie Hassan
Tim Kaine
Dick Durbin
Jeanne Shaheen
These are the ones who caved.
Are people down voting because he voted to open the vote? I'm so confused, all of this is so damn confusing.
It's because Schumer worked to get this to happen, then bowed out at the end so he could pretend he had nothing to do with it. He was the architect and the driving force behind this capitulation.
So people are downvoting MiddleAgesModem for falling for a blatantly obvious attempt by Schumer to redirect blame.
It’s because Schumer worked to get this to happen, then bowed out at the end so he could pretend he had nothing to do with it.
What have you read that proves that to be true?
He was the architect and the driving force behind this capitulation.
Again, based on what?
So people are downvoting MiddleAgesModem for falling for a blatantly obvious attempt by Schumer to redirect blame.
I have more upvotes than downvotes, in case you didn't notice. Maybe not everyone agrees with your unsubstantiated accusations. Some of us still need proof to form our opinions. You disregard proof so you can maintain your inflexible opinion.
In fairness, it wasn’t Schumer this time.
Senate Minority Leader Schumer
He’s either complicit in this scheme now that local elections are over, or ineffective at wielding the whip and keeping his caucus in line. Unless there’s a big public schism and this gang of eight get cut out, then he’s also feckless to boot.
I’m talking scorched earth retribution too, there needs to be a message sent and received to all in the party that breaking ranks for self-interest will cost them and their careers personally. Nobody gets to fold without consequence when the rest of your party’s elected members risked themselves and their position.
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