What's always funny to me when someome brings up missing features of Wayland is how, apparently, the missing features of X11 are getting pushed under the table or somehow also blamed on Wayland in some twisted way. Like, holy shit, compare the display settings of KDE on a modern display between Wayland and X11. My laptop didn't even show a third of all options anymore.

Sure, it will be nice once Wayland can do a few things (better), the current development push surely helps. But it's not like X11 can do everything either.

I kinda like being able to watch a video on one screen and not having to make sure that there are no animations going on anywhere else or the video framerate drops like it's 1996.

The only thing keeping me off of Wayland is the fact that OBS window capture forces me to manually reselect every window every time.

x11 when you try to use 2 monitors that don't have the exact same atomic composition:

Wayland is the one thing that fixed a whole shit-ton of my problems overnight and now I find out nobody wants to use it under any circumstances.
¯\(ツ)/¯ Alrighty then

I'll switch when it fucking saves session data. It's still not ready for mainstream.

My blocker is the Window Shade button on Plasma.

It worked fine in Wayland under Plasma 5, but somewhere early in the 6 transition support was removed.

For anyone not aware it minimizes the window to its own titlebar. I find it faster and more intuitive than minimizing to a dock, and it's easier to keep track of things when you can actually read the whole titlebar.

I just don't want to switch out my window manager and all the helper programs that make it work as a full desktop. Currently I just use LXQt+i3wm, and LXQt will take quite a while until it's anywhere near feature parity with Wayland, and AFAIK i3wm doesn't even have plans for a Wayland port (though I know that there's decently similar tiling WMs for Wayland). I don't think any of the oldschool low-resource-intensity desktop environments I'd consider using have a decently feature-complete Wayland port right now.

It's possible that it's not actually that much work to cobble together a new configuration with a Wayland-compatible tiling WM and a bunch of separate applications for screenshots, clipboard management etc., but I currently don't care to find out.

Meanwhile I'm here on Wayland because it does things that x11 doesn't.

When Debian Trixie with GNOME started with Wayland by default, I switched too. It's not bad I guess.

Yeah I tried it for XFCE yesterday*, noticed a few things I wanted weren't there (because XFWM isn't ported over) and promptly switched back. Didn't seem to me like it was more responsive or anything like that**.

But I am still using a 1050Ti, so who knows. That also kind of kills my interest in the idea even if I didn't have fixed-if-you-use-this-specific-DE type issues. I also don't really like the idea of CSD.

* after looking up that labwc not being installed was why the session wouldn't launch before

** entirely possible it is better in very specific scenarios, but the screen tearing that I see on X11 is diagonal (like the screen is 2 triangles, desynced) and honestly I don't even know the exact game to test (as I don't see tearing in videos or any other usage as far as I know)

IMO Wayland surpassed X11 a long time ago... As it doesn't shit in the pants with tearing on video play or touchscreens with multi-screen.

My child will never see more than 8-bit color

The older you get the more unnatural new tech feels

Wayland changes the core ideas behind the desktop

Wayland just gives me a black screen. I've tried for hours messing with driver and system settings but nothing works. I'll consider Wayland when I actually have the option to consider it.