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  • Sci-fi movies set in the past or near future tend to age poorly as real-world technology catches up.
  • Some sci-fi movies with dated technologies are considered iconic examples of inadvertent retrofuturism.
  • Outdated tech in sci-fi films can contribute to their aesthetic charm, but it can also make the futuristic setting seem less believable.

As the real world catches up to the fictional futuristic technologies depicted in cinema, there is an increasing number of sci-fi movies that have aged poorly thanks to actual tech developments being much different. This problem is closely related to the sci-fi subgenre of retrofuturism, which fuses the aesthetic of past eras with fantastical sci-fi mechanics. However, while there are retrofuturistic films where dated technologies shine, there are also sci-fi movies where the supposedly futuristic tech has been rendered obsolete by the passage of time and the invention of real products and concepts.

The problem with sci-fi movies set in futures that have passed is that many tend to age poorly, as real-world technological advances have rapidly caught up to sci-fi in recent years. On the other hand, dated technologies showing up in supposedly advanced future timelines is part of the charm of many old sci-fi films. Movies that have aged poorly thanks to real tech aren't necessarily bad, and some have even been recognized as iconic examples of inadvertent retrofuturism.

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[-] remus989@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago
  • Johnny Mnemonic (1995)
  • Blade Runner (1982)
  • Back to the Future Part II (1989)
  • Strange Days (1995)
  • Alien (1979)
  • Total Recall (1990)
  • The Lawnmower Man (1992)
  • 2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984)
  • Hackers (1995)
  • Star Trek: Nemesis (2002)

Also, I disagree on almost every single part of this list. None of these are worse off because of current tech. It's sci fi for christ sake, use some suspension of disbelief and watch some fun movies.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

I gotta agree with you.

For me, the one thing that really dates a production, and is something mostly seen with TV shows, is cellphones. The Wire could be set in modern times until you see them pull out a flip phone and start talking about the little Nokia burner phones. Same for The X-Files which I've been rewatching through lately.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know a lot of people think fax machines no longer exist because they personally don’t use them, but a lot of businesses still use them.

Edit: The real failed prediction of BTTF2 is the 80’s-themed diners. I’ve waited my whole life for those and we still don’t have them.

[-] inkican@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I love how William Gibson built entire plot arcs around fax being the future standard of communication when email was literally right there. Doesn't matter - I still love the Sprawl series - just illustrates how futurology works sometimes.

[-] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

At the time it was exceedingly rare that email was used for anything other than text because the bandwidth just wasn't there. And especially to the masses. Hell, 10 base T, with it's 10 megabits per second, wasn't a thing till 1990 while people were still generally stuck at 9600 baud as the top end for their modems. The idea of having 10 base T speeds to the home wasn't even a pipe dream at that point.

Even email wasn't necessarily universal. You could be on one system, say CompuServe, but you couldn't email anyone on Prodigy or the internet or FIDOnet or any of the other different places people had email. And some were dependent on what computer you had. A fax machine though? Anyone could buy one, plug it in, and et voila, be able to get faxes from anyone else with a fax or fax other people. You could include pictures, something that email did not do at the time. The idea that email would include anything but ASCII was still in its infancy.

And this doesn't even touch on how hard it would be to know all this back in the day if you were not heavily into technology and read many of the monthly technology magazines. We're spoiled by the internet today, and I say this as someone who grew up in the 70s and 80s and is totally spoiled by the internet. It is hard for my kids to conceive of a time where you couldn't just hop on Google and look up everything there is to know about a topic and especially bleeding edge information about it. All that used to be the domain of the respective disciplines's top people or people who bothered to read the latest papers coming out.

To people of Gibson's time, myself included, the idea that fax would rule was not nearly as insane as the idea that people would be able to pull a nigh infinite amount of information from their computers. And doing something like watching a movie through your computer? That would have seemed far more futuristic than he was trying to convey. That was some straight up Star Trek stuff. And remember, he was trying to convey a world that wasn't that far in the future.

I think the biggest problem with these lists is that it lacks the context of the times they were made in. Alien with it's CRTs and big single unit terminal with attached chair to access the ship's AI did not seem out of place at all. The minidisc player in Strange Days? It happened right as we were transitioning to DVDs - when previously discs could only hold albums. It didn't seem far fetched that they'd increase data and decrease size continually. Indeed, these lists seem to require that you not have that context because the moment you do, you realize how silly they are. And when you consider these are movies, that have limited budgets to project the future, these lists really fall apart.

[-] inkican@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I pay close attention these types of issues since as a writer I'm constantly thinking about how future tech could impact culture.

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