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Why is the western left so anti-communist? (tankie.tube)
submitted 3 weeks ago by Confidant6198@lemmy.ml to c/communism@lemmygrad.ml
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[-] RindoGang@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago

I have a hunch that every leftist space has some CIA presence trying to divide people, and sometimes even leftists themselves don’t realize they’re contributing to it

It’s fine to be critical of the people you support but I always have that thought in the back of my mind whenever I interact here or in similar spaces

[-] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago

Probably. Though how I typically try to approach it is with the assumption people are acting in good faith and try to reach them. Even infiltrators are not immune to being influenced by the views of the people they're supposed to be working against. I also think having some clear ideological lines makes a difference, like what the grad has. It doesn't prevent people from lying, but it makes it harder to sneak in BS if that BS breaks with the ideological lines.

As compared to, like, twitter "leftists" where anybody can put whatever in their bio and pretend to be whatever they want, and there's no process to weed them out because it's not a space run by principled communists.

[-] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

Even infiltrators are not immune to being influenced by the views of the people they’re supposed to be working against.

This is really important. Feds are still part of the working class and susceptible to class consciousness. If you suspect someone of being a fed just denounce their reactionary ideas as they show up. If a person consistently pushes reactionary ideas despite being corrected they should be removed from your group regardless of if they are a fed or not. If someone starts fedjacketing denounce that shit because it only serves the purpose of the ruling class.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I wonder how true the infiltrator point is in regard to the internet though, especially since 99% of "infiltrators" are most likely bots released en-masse to generate discord and chaos.

[-] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Fair point worth considering, especially as time and energy is concerned in dealing with names that are spewing BS. I'd expect bots to be more so the case on platforms like Twitter or Reddit (and I remember some of them being very obvious after Musk took over). On here, it's a bit more gatekept and obscure, and even with LLMs being more capable of impersonating a person than previous technology, they could easily go off the rails without monitoring or use AI-ism tells. So if someone were to try a thing like that in a context this confined, I'd still expect them to be doing some reading and using the bot more as an assistant to BS. Whereas like on Reddit, the sheer quantity of input on bigger subs makes it easier to flood shit with BS, while making it a painful endeavor to go through and look at each account to see what weird shit they may be getting up to.

[-] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have a hunch that every leftist space has some CIA presence trying to divide people, and sometimes even leftists themselves don’t realize they’re contributing to it

Well, it is a hunch well placed because COINTELPRO was very effective at disorganizing/demobilizing orgs when it was exposed for the first time. Some of this information is shared by Ben Norton and in Michael Parenti's "Left Anticommunist the unkindest cut"

  • This is just one piece of evidence showing how US cops and feds use anarchism and ultra-left ideology to disrupt the socialist movement and disguise imperialist talking points as “left-wing.”
[-] EuthanatosMurderhobo@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

As an FSB plant, can confirm.

Fuck anarchists, btw.

Seriously though, considering the ~~zombie~~ bot apocalypse on the Internet and who is responsible, it's a pretty safe bet.

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

Funnily enough I've found her on TikTok when some succdem was calling her out for supporting "North Korea"

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

I don't see any mention of even her page name, where can I follow her?

[-] ArcticFoxSmiles@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] haui@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

This woman shows me every day the balls that i need to grow to become an actual propagandist and agitator. I aspire to become like her. Its crazy how good her takes are.

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