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After nearly three decades of KDE desktop environments running on X11, the future KDE Plasma 6.8 release (due early 2027) will be Wayland-exclusive.

Read the FAQ in the link to find out what this means for you and the future of KDE.

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[-] Matty_r@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago

Thats quite the runway. That helps them focus the attention on Wayland specific issues to get it more up to speed with X11.

[-] klangcola@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

It was inevitable, but my nVidia GTX770 stuck on the legacy 470 drivers is still very sad.

Hopefully by that point the nouvou driver will have good enough performance for Moonlight streaming (client-side)

[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago
[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago
[-] Aerion@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Some things just don't work properly on Wayland. For example, #NoMachine remote #Plasma desktop sessions connect, show a white screen, then disconnect. Switching to an X11 session solves the problem.

This is a showstopper, so I'm sticking with X.Org.

Things like this needed to be ironed out before making it a permanent and exclusive replacement.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah the remote desktop stuff isn't quite there yet eh? And I was wondering how they were going to replace X over ssh as well.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

Isn't waypipe meant to replace X over SSH?

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago

I don't know enough about Wayland, so maybe?

[-] waffle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Many things still don't have a XDG portal like reading absolute cursor position (useful for some accessibility and productivity apps) and things who do have an XDG portal like screenshoting are usually not implemented in popular OS-agnostic libraries

Those things aren't supported in XWayland either for security reasons iirc and require X11 but I could be wrong

[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Among other things, yeah. I know it's coming, but windows having no idea where they were last time they were launched is a major annoyance. Not to mention a few games that crash on Wayland, and not on X11

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Those are all perfectly valid reasons.

Sometimes I feel the Linux community is too eager to jump on the latest shiny new thing, even when it's not finished or lacking important features, or has bugs.

[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

That's the thing, I'm really not against Wayland. It 100% is smoother than X11, feels more premium in a way. And code-wise, it's far easier to maintain.

But so many missing features make it tough to leave x11 behind. Even if just to switch to it once a week when needed.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Counterpoint, the Linux community is also happy to keep old and ancient things alive as well.

Just look at how many 32 bit dedicated distros are out there. There's even 16 bit ones.

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