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Dutch king and queen are confronted by angry protesters on visit to a slavery museum in South Africa (apnews.com)

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[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 112 points 1 year ago

King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima were leaving the Slave Lodge building in central Cape Town when a small group of protesters representing South Africa’s First Nations groups -- the earliest inhabitants of the region around Cape Town -- surrounded the royal couple and shouted slogans about Dutch colonizers stealing land from their ancestors.

They were literally there to pay a visit to a museum about the atrocities of previous Dutch inhabitants in the land. I don't know what harassing them was supposed to accomplish.

[-] arymandias@feddit.de 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First, protest’s don’t necessarily need to accomplish anything, people are allowed to be angry.

Second, the black white wealth inequality in South Africa is still insane and the Dutch are partially responsible for that. Plus you can’t really buy groceries from awareness or excuses.

Third, as a Dutch guy I don’t really mind them being uncomfortable for a bit once in a while, keeps them grounded.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

First, protest’s don’t necessarily need to accomplish anything, people are allowed to be angry.

Obviously, people are allowed to be angry. The question is whether the anger is productive.

Third, as a Dutch guy I don’t really mind them being uncomfortable for a bit once in a while, keeps them grounded.

Sure, but shouldn't the protest have been, I don't know, elsewhere than the visit to the museum? It's a very "No good deed goes unpunished" - it's a small act, sure, but surely making the museum visit the locus for the discomfort is just discouraging high-profile figures from acknowledging these sins?

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 13 points 1 year ago

Why?

They made some tokenisation effort to look like they gave a shit, why should that be rewarded?

“Oh we understand you’re still suffering and that we are partially responsible but we went inside that nice air conditioned building and had a guided tour for us after they closed the place down to every other visitor just for us. So like it’s really mean that you’re still angry at us right now”

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Man, if your poinit of view is that you want to discourage high-profile people from visiting these museums because their blood is impure or whatever, I don't know what to tell you, other than that all that'll result in is less exposure to these places and these sins.

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[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Remind them where their wealth came from, that real people remain affected by it... More (all) rich people should be confronted this way, if not with violence

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 1 year ago

When a monarch actually cares about systemic injustice or the origin of their wealth, they just abolish the monarchy.

[-] UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

Make them leave and never come back, that's what most victims want from their abusers.

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[-] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I don't understand protest? Should they not learn the history?

What's going on?

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

The dutch are NOT well remembered in South Africa, imagine if the confederates were their own ethnicity and that's a basic picture of how South africa views the dutch segment historically.

AFAIK now Afrikaaners are seen as ok enough as long as they don't do shit like US southerners still butthurt about the civil war do.

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