Supporters say it’s over her advocacy for Gazan children.
How DARE she!!!! /s
Truth be told it'd be weird if that part said literally anything else. "Supporters say it's over her potty training videos."
It's never wrong to punch a Nazi, even if the Nazi is Jewish.
Imagine being so completely detached from reality, that you would put Ms Rachel in the same category as Tucker Carlson? The mental gymnastics required to make that make sense, is Olympic caliber.
Also Nick Fuentes is nowhere to be found
That'd be too stark of a difference; showing what obvious legitimate antisemitism looks like. I'm willing to bet they'll always pretend Nick Fuentes doesn't exist.
Do they realize how silly this shows them to be? I get the impression they’re so out of touch they don’t even realize it.
They no longer care. They know how ridiculous they are they still backed by the major west, arab traitors, china and russia although most of those countries try to deny that
They’ve cratered decades of support and goodwill from a huge portion of the world. May not have an impact today but I hope it changes in the future.
Given my interactions with zionist friends and family, they're completely out of touch. They've shoehorned themselves into a hasbara bubble and consider anything not pro-Israel to be "Qatari propaganda" one way or another. That closes any channel that could possibly inform them of the way they appear and lets them lean into their victimhood, raging against anyone and anything that isn't aligned.
Their existence is contingent on a majority of Americans being ignorant of reality.
Wait, is this not a The Onion article? Of one of the foreign versions of it.
No, they've been trying to undermine Ms Rachel's calls to not murder children for months now...
It’s antisemitic to think murdering children is wrong apparently.
If thinking ethnic cleansing is wrong is antisemitism, yeah, I guess. But at that point it seems like it’s morally right to be antisemitic.
That's convenient, I had just created a "genocide apologists of the year" award, and was not sure who to give it to.
SLAMS
BLASTS even
they RIPPED her
Let's hope that the Israeli genocide against the people of Palestine will somehow come to an end.
Special thanks to Ms. Rachel for being the guiding light we need in these dark times and for speaking truth to evil power.
I do think "StopAntisemitism" deserves being in the title; it's a particularly loud group, not particularly representative of Israel the government (or jewish folks).
Just an absolutely abhorent organization, which deserves to be despised. No good work, just a racist organization focused on directing other racists (and actual antisemites!) away from real problems.
Lol what? It is definitely representative of Israeli leadership since it's creation
I would love this source: do they receive substantial funding, infrastructure and facilities, or personnel explicitly from Israel? What is their explicit tie to the government?
AFAIK (and I would really like to be wrong), this is a passion project by some absolutely terrible grifters.
You don't have to be payed by an government to be representative of it . Every single Israel state representatives and defender use the argument of antisemitism to refer to anybody who has the least amount of criticism of Israel and even humanizing Palestinians kids like Rachel did
I do not endorse the policy of "your group/organization is represented by all people who claim to advocate for it". I do not want leftism, Palestine, the US, democracy, lemmy, or any other organization to be judged on this basis. So I must ask for a more direct tie, if there are any.
Israel entire history is about surrounding countries hating them for antisemitism and security concern bullshit and nobody talked about people , I am talking about state policies that rarely represent the people of a country and this dumb organization use the same exact strategy. I don't know why it's hard for you to understand such single logic
To check that I understand you: you are saying that Israel has used the label of antisemitism in a dishonest, vague, and harmful way as a tool to silence critics?
If so, we agree on this.
You are also saying that Israel deserves to be blamed/shamed for this behavior?
If so, we agree on this.
To me, this news item is about a particularly heinous (and I believe fundamentally American) grift that needs to be noticed and focused on. I think 'Pro-Israel group' could be replaced with the more precise and explicit "stopantisemitism" and it would improve the title. I think there are better (and endlessly many) examples of the government of israel doing this, but fewer opportunities to explicitly pile on to stopantisemitism. I am making a quibble about priorities.
I am simply saying that this org are simply using antisemitism to oppress anybody who criticize Israel occupation or even humanize Palestinians kids exactly like Israeli consecutives governments has been doing since it's creation
The group repeat Israel government propaganda and rhetoric so I don't understand your criticism of the title of the article. Only mentioning the group name would make it look like it is a legitimate antisemitism group
I agree with the analogy. Your simple point is a fine one.
I think there is an opportunity to make a more specific point, that requires no analogy, is shorter and more precise, still works towards your political priorities (assuming you do want Israel shamed for this kind of behavior), and (I think) has a better chance of making specific, incremental, progress in political discourse. That change is to replace "Pro-Israel group" with "stopantisemitism" in the title. The analogy can be easily made in the OP body, comments, and likely springs to any readers mind. It also removes the potential for kibbitzing by apologists about how 'oh but this is really an american org'.
That's the simple change that I'm suggesting.
No, the current title title is the right title. The group has not a single unique talking point everything is copypasta of Israeli ridiculous claims. Like the claim of Palestinians using dolls and fake blood to fasly accuse Israel of killing babies
Your criticism would be right if you has a single evidence that this group has ever criticized the government of Israel and criticized the genocide or has ever show some empathy to Gazans but right now your argument is factually wrong
This conspiracy has been around for years, but mentions of Pallywood spiked dramatically after Oct. 7, 2023, far surpassing previous peaks for the term during past Israeli military offensives in Gaza and the West Bank. Beyond Israel, Pallywood has gained traction in right-wing circles worldwide, particularly in the U.S. and India. One of the most grotesque examples came in December 2023, when a wave of pro-Israel accounts—including the official @Israel handle, the Jerusalem Post, and influencers like Ben Shapiro—amplified the claim that a grieving Palestinian man, seen in a widely shared video cradling his killed baby grandson, was faking it. “Hamas accidentally posted a video of a doll (yes a doll),” **the @Israel account wrote in a post that was viewed more than 1.3 million times. Others—including StopAntisemitism, Hen Mazzig, and Yoseph Haddad, echoed the claim to millions more.
Please explain why my "criticism" would be stronger if stopantisemitism were ever an anti-israeli body. I don't understand that at all. This would show they have principles, instead of being a grift.
Plenty of other orgs have useful idiots and fans. They are 'pro-Israel', but I don't think that's the most useful descriptor or context.
The group repeat the same exact Israeli state and government lies and propaganda so they are 100% pro Israel group. Denying that is like denying that 1 +1 = 2
Yes, they are pro-Israel. They are also an american grift that's very profitable.
I feel like you're saying 2 is an even number, and I'm saying it's also literally 2. Specificity has value, and I think there should be a good reason to be vague instead of specific.
I will ask again: why is my argument for changing the title stronger if stopantisemetism were anti-Israel?
Explain how it is not a good title to use the designation of Pro Israel group in the title when the group has the exact same propaganda as the Israeli government
I am not interested in telling you that you have done bad. I am interested in telling you that you could do better. I think this change is an improvement because:
I think there is an opportunity to make a more specific point, that requires no analogy, is shorter and more precise, still works towards your political priorities (assuming you do want Israel shamed for this kind of behavior), and (I think) has a better chance of making specific, incremental, progress in political discourse.
Israel - just as pathetic as evil.
Wow, what a prestigious award. I'm an amateur antisemite but I have the passion to become the very best, hope I earn it in the future.
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