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I'm a simple man, I see a negative Net Upgrade Size and I get horny.
I was going to ask why then again I thought to myself why not? And couldn't find a good answer. You do your thing my horny internet friend. I'm sorry for interrupting, I'll take my leave... α(α)α
Meanwhile, I'll stay and watch.
The update, of course.
OP is not updating his Arch system regularly.
his previous update must have been at least two hours old.
or monthsπ€·
my post was a meme joke.
I would swap the two characters in this image. I'm the user initiating the upgrade and the system is like "come on, not every day, right?"
22.8 GiB install size !?
WTF?
I must admit I don't recall the size of my own installation, but that seems HUGE!
Anyways congratulations on getting it trimmed. π
That's like what, one and a half instances of Electron
in reality it's like 70, which is still insane
If you're doing anything with GPU compute (Blender, AI, simulations etc.), just ROCm, CUDA or oneAPI alone will take up half of that
On my system Blender is only Β½ a gig with all dependencies...
You need to start installing more electron applications and a bunch of jvms too.
CLEARLY This user doesnβt use corporate desktop apps
Larger than my entire root partition (currently at 21GB), but that's because I made the fatal mistake to limit the partition to 25GB when I set it up. So I have to keep it trim, and I envy OP deep down.
Haha I did that once too, because I had a system that when upgrading I wanted a separate home partition so I could just reassign it to my new install.
Akchooly it's 22.3 GiB.
lol mine is like 76GB. have been running the same install for going on 9 years now
76 GB packages from you Linux distro? Did you simply install ALL packeages?
If you install all the packages you can't get sudden fomo at 3 am.
It's the key to a restful night
Download of 6GB is wild, is that re-downloading the entire package for each one that needs an update? Shouldn't it be more efficient to download only the changes and patch the existing files?
At this point it seems like my desktop Linux install needs as much space and bandwidth than windows does.
This doesn't work too well for rolling releases, because users will quickly get several version jumps behind.
For example, let's say libbanana is currently at version 1.2.1, but then releases 1.2.2, which you ship as a distro right away, but then a few days later, they've already released 1.2.3, which you ship, too.
Now Agnes comes home at the weekend and runs package updates on her system, which is still on libbanana v1.2.1. At that point, she would need the diffs 1.2.1β1.2.2 and then 1.2.2β1.2.3 separately, which may have overlaps in which files changed.
In principle, you could additionally provide the diff 1.2.1β1.2.3, but if Greg updates only every other weekend, and libbanana celebrates the 1.3.0 release by then, then you will also need the diffs 1.2.1β1.3.0, 1.2.2β1.3.0 and 1.2.3β1.3.0. So, this strategy quickly explodes with the number of different diffs you might need.
At that point, just not bothering with diffs and making users always download the new package version in full is generally preferred.
Patching means rebuilding. And packagers don't really publish diffs. So it's use all your bandwidth instead!
Which is WAY more economical.
Rebuilding packages takes a lot of compute. Downloading mostly requires just flashing some very small lights very quickly.
If you have multiple computers, you can always set up a caching proxy so you only have to download the packages once.
Yeah, totally is. There's a reason nobody publishes diffs
openSUSE Leap does have differential package updates. Pretty sure, I once saw it on one of the Red-Hat-likes, too.
But yeah, it makes most sense on slow-moving, versioned releases with corporate backing.
Ooh, got any links on how Leap does this? My searching isn't yielding much
Had to search for a bit, too, but finally found the relevant keyword: Delta RPMs
(Which also explains why it's a Red Hat / SUSE thing. π
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Here's a decent article, which links to some more in-depth explanations: https://www.certdepot.net/rhel7-get-started-delta-rpms/
Thanks, really well hidden feature here for someone I'm sure
this post was submitted on 06 Dec 2025
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