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[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

At what point do we go back to creators hosting MP4 files that you can just buy from them directly? That would almost certainly be more financially viable for indie film makers and would certainly be a better user experience. I personally would gladly spend money on media I like over piracy if it goes to the actual creators and I get a regular file I can store myself and play as many times as I want.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

That's OK. We've got other stuff to do. Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, rewatch the original Star Wars trilogy. Cyberpunk, Witcher 3, Stardew Valley. And about 20,000 unread ebooks. I'll be just fine.

[-] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago

Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul

And Pluribus now!

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

It's not about entertainment, its about politics and controlling media.

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 33 points 1 day ago

Also movies that are made outside of the US are higher quality. Pirate those.

[-] Catalyst_A@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

US movies have become generic as hell. I rarely ever watch any.

[-] RedSnt@feddit.dk 7 points 18 hours ago

They've literally corporatized everything over there, everything is designed by committee now in hopes to hit as wide an audience as possible. They'd rather not take creative risks and create slop to get number to go up.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Very true. This entire year i found one good movie, Bugonia. Worst year on record for me.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt12300742/

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 18 hours ago

gotta be honest, i wasn't a huge fan

[-] idriss@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago

Netflix: we solved a problem Us: nah, you are the problem

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

Lacks the Jellyfin logo in the last panel

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Pretty much.

[+] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one -18 points 1 day ago

It's kind of nice for us normies, to be fair.

[-] idriss@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago

Piracy is easier than ever now, you can have libreTorrent in Android, copy links there, download and enjoy the full copy. Netflix is evil https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Netflix

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 16 hours ago

I'll respectfully pass, I honestly have no issue financially supporting content that I enjoy.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You're almost never financially supporting the actual creators. AFAIK very few contracts in film/TV nowadays have ongoing royalties that are paid out per stream or download of the media. The writers, actors, film crew, editors, etc are paid a flat rate that's probably far less than what they deserve and the company itself gets the actual royalties. That's what "return on investment" is, the wages of the creators are losses that must be exceeded by the streaming revenue for a project to be considered successful. The actual creators are also denied any form of copyright for their work or the ability to extend the IP on their own, that's entirely controlled by the company, which is why you often see the actual creators being excited about fan creations around the work while the company itself tries to sue everyone. You're better off pirating the media and then directly giving money to the people who made it happen. You're literally better off watching YouTube videos with adblock off than watching Netflix if your goal is to support creators financially, at least YouTube still offers a small percentage of the ad revenue to creators.

Also, guarantee more of your subscription money is going toward AI research with the goal of replacing humans in media production than any of the actual people's wages.

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one -1 points 5 hours ago

I don't really see how I'm better off doing this. It's a lot of extra time I have to invest for each game, music track, and video I watch.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

So you get all holier than thou about anti piracy and pro paying Netflix money under the guise of "financially supporting creators" yet dismiss any suggestion of how you can directly support creators as not worth your time and effort? Seems like you're more interested in feeling like you're supporting creators than going to the effort of actually doing so, but you do you I guess.

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 4 hours ago

It's kind of like a time vs money trade-off than anything else. At the end of the day I just want to turn on Netflix, Spotify, or Steam and not have to worry about anything else.

[-] BattleGrown@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Just be aware that it means you finance the death of creativity. Then ofcourse do as you wish

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 7 hours ago

Honestly, if it's something that I enjoy, it doesn't matter much to me if it's considered creative or not.

[-] idriss@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

You have every right of course

[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Corporate consolidation is ALWAYS bad in the long run. There will be more rent seeking behavior as a result of this. The product will get worse and you will be asked to pay more for it.

[+] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one -7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It feels like video streaming going the way of audio streaming with more content for the price. Just this merge would greatly increase Netflix's catalog size. I'm okay with it, personally.

[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not sure I have time to go into this completely but what you are describing as good has objectively been a death sentence to tons of musicians.

Spotify is the biggest music streaming platform right? Did you know that they actually charge artists to be on their radios (you know the things they use dark patterns in their apps to drive you to)? You literally can't be in the prime spots for visibility on the app without paying a tax to the company. Did you know that the music industry basically coerces artists into a system of indentured servitude where they are stuck in a debt trap with the large mega studios that got their album made (they also retain no rights to the master and essentially do not own their own work)?

That price comes from companies squeezing out the variety in the music we hear to be just the shit that bangs the hardest in the most inoffensive and generic way to the most people. Depressing for that to be how art is made no? This is what Netflix is ALREADY doing.

Rest assured your "value" will be realized in more ads and membership tiers they can stick on top of content they previous had to pay exorbitant licensing costs on. Rest assure it will be more middle of the road slop that Netflix is already famous for because its just good enough people will watch it even though it is devoid of all kind of unique character.

This merger will hurt the artists who pump out your favorite shows today. There is not a shadow of a doubt in my mind.

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I guess I personally don't really see enshitification happening to things with a producer-distribution model. Besides music, there are podcasts, app/play store, and video games which never really went through enshitification where I'm like forced to watch more ads, so it isn't likely video will either, at least in my opinion.

Amazon prime tried it with adding a lot of ads and people just stopped watching Amazon shows, entirely. Like music, there's just too much content to watch out there.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Apps and video games have been thoroughly enshittified, at least on mobile, but also partially on desktop. Amazon Prime is also still very successful and people have not stopped watching Amazon shows entirely.

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I mean maybe like a year ago, for a short time, Amazon suddenly had multiple 4 minute ads in a video. It was unwatchable so I just dropped the platform entirely. I was in the middle of watching Vox Machina. When I came back a few months later, even though the ads were gone, the damage was already done. I forgot what was going on and lost interest in the show.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Sure, that's fair, but 1) you're just one user out of many thousands, and 2) stuff like "multiple 4 minute ads in a video" is usually rolled out through A/B testing, so many users probably never saw it.

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Oh for sure, I don't have the data personally to prove or disprove enshitification of video media consumption. So I'm going on personal experiences and opinion, here. As a personal anecdote, attempts to enshitify video streaming was just met with me leaving the platform. So I'm admittedly projecting my own view onto other people, here. Unlike social media where there is a network effect that keeps people there, video media doesn't have that effect. If a provider makes video streaming worse, consumers will just leave and they can do one any another million of things there is to do on a tablet.

That's why I'm not really concerned with the Netflix buyout of WB discovery. It will likely make more content available on more services.

[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago

The podcast industry is dominated by iHeartRadio. There are plenty of independent platforms but they have an outsized influence on the market which determines what kind of content wins and loses. Also fuck loads of ads which sucks ass. As an aside they have also ruined a lot of radio by buying up local stations and cramming them with ads too.

Apps on iPhone are literally distributed by a single store with no options for side loading where they get to decide if you're allowed to publish content and if you're allowed to install it. Android is slightly less bad but they are moving in this direction currently and functionally a very small percentage of people ever leaves the Play store ecosystem anyway.

Video games and micro transactions that plague so many games? Loot boxes and gambling? DLC for things that used to be free updates? You must be young and don't remember how things used to be.

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 16 hours ago

For enshitification, I mean that it's the same thing but it got worse. Like how Reddit used to have an open API. And how X was balanced in the past didn't promote certain viewpoints. It's the same product as before that just got worse. It's something that happens a lot with social media.

Releasing new content with ads, DLC, or gambling isn't enshitifying something. It's releasing something new which is shitty. It's new content which is in addition to the previously released content. Those older games, podcasts, videos, music, and apps are still available. And they are likely cheaper, have less ads, and are easier to access than before.

[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Olympic levels of mental gymnastics here if I'm being honest.

You're just wrong. Enshittification is about corporations putting more and more increasingly invasive forms of monetization on things we use in our lives. Often it is driven by market monopolization.

That old content you want to view is often not available anymore OR is available behind additional paywalls (looking at you Nintendo and Sony). Its not about that old content becoming shitty necessarily but the overall state of the platforms we use being rather antagonistic towards their users to generate some more sweet profits.

You should go read how Cory Doctrow talks about it. He invented the word. I'm using his definition not whatever you've decided it means to you to frame your argument.

Any innovation that these companies deliver is a happy accident on the way to trying to squeeze you for more money. And when that fails they will just try to consolidate their monopoly further so next time you'll have even less choice.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Do you see the major difference? In audio streaming, most providers have most content. In video streaming, single providers have most content. That means video streaming will get enshittified much more quickly.

[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

This is a solid point I didnt expand on in my comment. Nail on head.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Normalize pirating

[-] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

fmhy.net is like the best source (there is also a lot of legit & awesome free internet stuff)

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It feels sweeter if I know I'm stealing from Disney tho

[-] whimsy@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

Until it isn't when they start squeezing out all the profit

[-] organ@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

You spelled 'sheep' wrong

[-] sunbeam60@feddit.uk -1 points 1 day ago

You understood “remember the human” wrong.

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