84
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] FE80@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

What kind of shit for brains asshole is still defending Windows in 2025?

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

And what kind of slavering mouth-breathing teoglodyte doesn't understand that Hannah Montana Linux negates all of these issues, will suck your dixk without hesitation, and lets you read news from four days from now.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile Microsoft makes the start menu with React

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I try not to let considerations get in the way of doing great work.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

That is the most punchable response I've seen in a while.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago

No way that's real. Tell me it's not real

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

"I am a react developer"

I thought we are supposed to be language-agnostic after 3rd project.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Well, at least it's React Native, seemingly. Also from what I've heard it's only one section like rendering results from the web or some shit like that.

[-] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago

Electron is the only cross platform gui toolkit...

If you ignore QT, GTK and everything else.

I'm so glad that Microsoft makes an awesome cross platfor--- wait, no, but they contribute code to--- hmmm ... Hey, what does Microsoft do to make apps more portable again?

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The real reasons often are:

  • They want be able to hire much cheaper webdevs instead of software devs.
  • Electron has a lot of built-in data collecting metrics, which they urgently need for creating a real-life KITT.
  • Easy live embedding of content. Sure you can add your own solution, in fact I created ETML as a solution for this problem for my engine, all without any support for nasty scripting languages or convoluted stylesheets (style-inheritance in CSS turned me off from webdev even more than JS did). At best, it can be used for things like embedding videos on Discord, because no one else thought some universal approach, let alone one that disallows proprietary players. At worst, it's being used for ads.

Also a lot of Windows-only apps are Electron apps, only because the manufacturer wants to go "fuck you", even putting protections into the code just in case you wanted to run it on Linux.

EDIT: Forgot the "live embeds" reason.

[-] klangcola@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Another reason is when developing the Web version first. Draw.io is a good example, where we get a bonus desktop(electron) version "for free" though the product was developed as a web app.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 1 week ago

one of the funniest (and sadly accurate) things i've heard said about linux backwards-compatibility is that its most stable API is Win32. you can run really old windows software on wine because they support stuff even windows doesn't anymore.

of course this is because the expectation is that you can just recompile old software to work on new systems, which is not really a thing on window.s

[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

The most stable system is one that is out of support. No updates == No breakage! ๐Ÿ˜„

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It's so portable! With maximal efforts we support both windows 7, windows 8.1 (but not 8.0), windiws 10 and soon Windows 11 !!!

/s

load more comments (14 replies)
[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Tell me you have no idea how software development works without saying it...

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 6 points 1 week ago

I read it twice and it felt like word salad.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Abstraction layers? In MY messy pile of spaghetti ass code!?

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Itโ€™s more likely than you think.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago

that's a lot of words to basically say "i'm a fucking idiot".

[-] art@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Okay, how does this dude explain native Linux apps?

[-] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Aren't Qt and GTK cross platform? I have Dolphin and Kate running on my Windows work laptop.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] thecatprincx@pawb.social 12 points 1 week ago

Someone obviously missed their nap and is having a tantrum.

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

(Apple as a platform is so closed that it couldn't be influenced by this utter crap and the developers can use the OS native API's.)

A hidden gem of stupidity and nonsense in the already pretty dumb tirade.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

The real reason is it's a pain in the ass to deploy software in Windows. It's not like you can easily set up a server and put some packages on and have it just automatically apt update to that. Sure there's some "Enterprise" servers you could set up (and pay license fees for) that might work somewhat like that, but it's easier to just make it a web app and deploy to an internet webserver.

For product distribution, you need someone download an .exe, hope a virus scanner won't block it, maybe pay microsoft to sign it or whatever, hope the user has a compatible version of windows, and maybe they can get some working software. But then you have to make some mechanism to handle updates and hopefully that doesn't get blocked by some security software. So it's easier to make your software a web application.

Also putting out windows native applications means you might not be able to enshittify it later since people could continue to use the old version forever. It's weird to assume enshittification happens accidentally, but it's actually what some companies want to do their software because $$$. They want applications they can enshitty later, they don't make applications that may work on linux and whoopsie it just somehow got enshittified because of that... somehow.

But many times it's just best solution. If an application doesn't need access to anything on my system, I'd rather it be a web app. App does the thing I need, and when I'm done, I close the tab and we're done. Why install more software on my system if I don't need to?

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 8 points 1 week ago

Wow, that's some serious misinformation.

[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

Thats... Thats like a flat earther in computer stuff.

Do those really exist??

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I know it gets thrown around a lot, but the Dunning-Kruger effect is real and applicable to people in all fields.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago
load more comments (2 replies)
[-] qualia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Since when has competition ever spurred innovation? Pff

[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
  1. The user land API/ABI is stable to a fault in Linux. The kernel API/ABI is unstable.

  2. Companies are cheap. They hired web devs then tasked them with building a desktop application rather then hiring people to write native apps. They had a hammer and used it to fix every problem they had.

  3. macOS is just as affected by electron apps as a Linux is.

  4. Electron is horrible, but it does bring apps to many an OS once Chromium is ported.

  5. Open protocols or open APIs from the company would fix the non-native app problem.

load more comments (6 replies)
[-] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Show me how you never programmed anything without telling me

Software should be maintained, not built and forgotten about. Windows encourages the latter, which is just straight up bad practice

[-] IggyTheSmidge@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Fairly large chunks of Windows code are examples of the latter, in fact.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

You dont even have to look at the code to see this. Just make one wrong click in a UI and youre directly getting dragged into a UI that hasn't changed since Windows XP.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago

But that's always a good sign that you've dug into the part that actually still works consistently! Once you pop some Windows 2000 era UI you know you've struck gold and need to note the path for next time (until Microsoft rearranges their settings for the 5th time this year of course)

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

He's a magician, because reading this, I aged 10 years and grew a metastatic tumor.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is such a hilariously bad take. I like how "I can't use Win32 on Linux" morphed into "re-write the whole app in Javascript just so I can use Electron."

Meanwhile, Wine and QT are like: "am I a joke to you?"

I'll add that (IMO) a lot of applications are becoming increasingly malicious, although less-so in the desktop space. I'm happy that devs like this are forced to quasi-sandbox their crap into a browser. Actually, if anyone knows how to crack into an Electron app in order to restore local plugins, user-scripts, and sandbox security controls, let me know. Or just liberate the guts into a local web app instead so I can use a real browser? This trend could be very useful for local security if those features become available.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I can code in C on all 3 (more if you include BSDs). You would not believe how amazing my skills are to avoid platform specific dependencies in a language that predates all these OS.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I welcome other's input but I thought this was a pretty clear cut case of Mac becoming popular. Why write a program for Windows and Mac when you can just make a website. Then Chromebooks in education sealed the deal.

Linux is only starting mainstream use now because of Europe's push for digital sovereignty and windows 10 end of life.

[-] olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I hate the Windows API so much. There are like 100 million function that all start with a capital letter and take a kajillion arguments just to do the most simple thing imaginable (see CreateThread). And there are twenty different typedefs for the same type (PSTR, LPSTR, tchar* all point to char*). Also all variables and function arguments should start with their types, like hWindow if the window is a HANDLE.

I hate this joke of a programming interface so much, I hope everyone sticks to programming with POSIX and platform-agnostic libraries.

EDIT: And also, did I mention that if you want to use it, you get all of it or none of it? It's literally a single header file named Windows.h. You get just that and take it or leave it.

[-] Vitaly@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

The windows API documentation is a joke

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 1 week ago
load more comments (2 replies)
[-] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 3 points 1 week ago

This is what too much windows does to your brain kids.

[-] GFGJewbacca@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

They must really like the taste of leather.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next โ€บ
this post was submitted on 09 Dec 2025
84 points (96.7% liked)

linuxmemes

28505 readers
287 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack users for any reason. This includes using blanket terms, like "every user of thing".
  • Don't get baited into back-and-forth insults. We are not animals.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.
  • Don't come looking for advice, this is not the right community.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves/tolerates/hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  • 5. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Language/ัะทั‹ะบ/Sprache
  • This is primarily an English-speaking community. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
  • Comments written in other languages are allowed.
  • The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
  • Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
  • 6. (NEW!) Regarding public figuresWe all have our opinions, and certain public figures can be divisive. Keep in mind that this is a community for memes and light-hearted fun, not for airing grievances or leveling accusations.
  • Keep discussions polite and free of disparagement.
  • We are never in possession of all of the facts. Defamatory comments will not be tolerated.
  • Discussions that get too heated will be locked and offending comments removed.
  • ย 

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.

    founded 2 years ago
    MODERATORS