What kind of shit for brains asshole is still defending Windows in 2025?
And what kind of slavering mouth-breathing teoglodyte doesn't understand that Hannah Montana Linux negates all of these issues, will suck your dixk without hesitation, and lets you read news from four days from now.
Meanwhile Microsoft makes the start menu with React
I try not to let considerations get in the way of doing great work.
That is the most punchable response I've seen in a while.
"I am a react developer"
I thought we are supposed to be language-agnostic after 3rd project.
Well, at least it's React Native, seemingly. Also from what I've heard it's only one section like rendering results from the web or some shit like that.
Electron is the only cross platform gui toolkit...
If you ignore QT, GTK and everything else.
I'm so glad that Microsoft makes an awesome cross platfor--- wait, no, but they contribute code to--- hmmm ... Hey, what does Microsoft do to make apps more portable again?
The real reasons often are:
Also a lot of Windows-only apps are Electron apps, only because the manufacturer wants to go "fuck you", even putting protections into the code just in case you wanted to run it on Linux.
EDIT: Forgot the "live embeds" reason.
Another reason is when developing the Web version first. Draw.io is a good example, where we get a bonus desktop(electron) version "for free" though the product was developed as a web app.
one of the funniest (and sadly accurate) things i've heard said about linux backwards-compatibility is that its most stable API is Win32. you can run really old windows software on wine because they support stuff even windows doesn't anymore.
of course this is because the expectation is that you can just recompile old software to work on new systems, which is not really a thing on window.s
The most stable system is one that is out of support. No updates == No breakage! ๐
It's so portable! With maximal efforts we support both windows 7, windows 8.1 (but not 8.0), windiws 10 and soon Windows 11 !!!
/s
Tell me you have no idea how software development works without saying it...
I read it twice and it felt like word salad.
that's a lot of words to basically say "i'm a fucking idiot".
Abstraction layers? In MY messy pile of spaghetti ass code!?
Itโs more likely than you think.
Aren't Qt and GTK cross platform? I have Dolphin and Kate running on my Windows work laptop.
Okay, how does this dude explain native Linux apps?
Someone obviously missed their nap and is having a tantrum.
(Apple as a platform is so closed that it couldn't be influenced by this utter crap and the developers can use the OS native API's.)
A hidden gem of stupidity and nonsense in the already pretty dumb tirade.
The real reason is it's a pain in the ass to deploy software in Windows. It's not like you can easily set up a server and put some packages on and have it just automatically apt update to that. Sure there's some "Enterprise" servers you could set up (and pay license fees for) that might work somewhat like that, but it's easier to just make it a web app and deploy to an internet webserver.
For product distribution, you need someone download an .exe, hope a virus scanner won't block it, maybe pay microsoft to sign it or whatever, hope the user has a compatible version of windows, and maybe they can get some working software. But then you have to make some mechanism to handle updates and hopefully that doesn't get blocked by some security software. So it's easier to make your software a web application.
Also putting out windows native applications means you might not be able to enshittify it later since people could continue to use the old version forever. It's weird to assume enshittification happens accidentally, but it's actually what some companies want to do their software because $$$. They want applications they can enshitty later, they don't make applications that may work on linux and whoopsie it just somehow got enshittified because of that... somehow.
But many times it's just best solution. If an application doesn't need access to anything on my system, I'd rather it be a web app. App does the thing I need, and when I'm done, I close the tab and we're done. Why install more software on my system if I don't need to?
Wow, that's some serious misinformation.
Thats... Thats like a flat earther in computer stuff.
Do those really exist??
I know it gets thrown around a lot, but the Dunning-Kruger effect is real and applicable to people in all fields.
He's a magician, because reading this, I aged 10 years and grew a metastatic tumor.
Since when has competition ever spurred innovation? Pff
The user land API/ABI is stable to a fault in Linux. The kernel API/ABI is unstable.
Companies are cheap. They hired web devs then tasked them with building a desktop application rather then hiring people to write native apps. They had a hammer and used it to fix every problem they had.
macOS is just as affected by electron apps as a Linux is.
Electron is horrible, but it does bring apps to many an OS once Chromium is ported.
Open protocols or open APIs from the company would fix the non-native app problem.
Show me how you never programmed anything without telling me
Software should be maintained, not built and forgotten about. Windows encourages the latter, which is just straight up bad practice
Fairly large chunks of Windows code are examples of the latter, in fact.
You dont even have to look at the code to see this. Just make one wrong click in a UI and youre directly getting dragged into a UI that hasn't changed since Windows XP.
But that's always a good sign that you've dug into the part that actually still works consistently! Once you pop some Windows 2000 era UI you know you've struck gold and need to note the path for next time (until Microsoft rearranges their settings for the 5th time this year of course)
This is such a hilariously bad take. I like how "I can't use Win32 on Linux" morphed into "re-write the whole app in Javascript just so I can use Electron."
Meanwhile, Wine and QT are like: "am I a joke to you?"
I'll add that (IMO) a lot of applications are becoming increasingly malicious, although less-so in the desktop space. I'm happy that devs like this are forced to quasi-sandbox their crap into a browser. Actually, if anyone knows how to crack into an Electron app in order to restore local plugins, user-scripts, and sandbox security controls, let me know. Or just liberate the guts into a local web app instead so I can use a real browser? This trend could be very useful for local security if those features become available.
I can code in C on all 3 (more if you include BSDs). You would not believe how amazing my skills are to avoid platform specific dependencies in a language that predates all these OS.
I welcome other's input but I thought this was a pretty clear cut case of Mac becoming popular. Why write a program for Windows and Mac when you can just make a website. Then Chromebooks in education sealed the deal.
Linux is only starting mainstream use now because of Europe's push for digital sovereignty and windows 10 end of life.
I hate the Windows API so much. There are like 100 million function that all start with a capital letter and take a kajillion arguments just to do the most simple thing imaginable (see CreateThread). And there are twenty different typedefs for the same type (PSTR, LPSTR, tchar* all point to char*). Also all variables and function arguments should start with their types, like hWindow if the window is a HANDLE.
I hate this joke of a programming interface so much, I hope everyone sticks to programming with POSIX and platform-agnostic libraries.
EDIT: And also, did I mention that if you want to use it, you get all of it or none of it? It's literally a single header file named Windows.h. You get just that and take it or leave it.
This is what too much windows does to your brain kids.
Hint: :q!
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